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opened 2025-11-11 16:44:57 -06:00 by GiteaMirror · 6 comments
GiteaMirror commented 2025-11-11 16:44:57 -06:00
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Originally created by @Ivan2getdmodelz on GitHub (Aug 14, 2025).

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In using via the uv installation method, upon launching the open-webui, it pulls the python 3.11 elements down into the virtual environment for runtime. This is undesirable for a completely disconnected installation. I've attempted creating a venv from uv independently, however when pip intalling in a venv, it pulls down approximately 9G of items.

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Please update the requirements.txt to provide that explicitly identifies the bare minimum dependencies needed for installation.

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Originally created by @Ivan2getdmodelz on GitHub (Aug 14, 2025). ### Check Existing Issues - [x] I have searched the existing issues and discussions. ### Problem Description In using via the uv installation method, upon launching the open-webui, it pulls the python 3.11 elements down into the virtual environment for runtime. This is undesirable for a completely disconnected installation. I've attempted creating a venv from uv independently, however when pip intalling in a venv, it pulls down approximately 9G of items. ### Desired Solution you'd like Please update the requirements.txt to provide that explicitly identifies the bare minimum dependencies needed for installation. ### Alternatives Considered _No response_ ### Additional Context _No response_
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@Classic298 commented on GitHub (Aug 14, 2025):

this is the bare minimum needed for installation - the cuda drivers are very large and take gigabytes of storage, and so do all the many many other dependencies.

You say you checked for existing discussions and issues - did you? This is a duplicate issue. The physical size of open webui has been discussed many times and ideas of how to optionally reduce it (by e.g. having a more minimal version) have been discussed.

Please do not open duplicate issues.

@Classic298 commented on GitHub (Aug 14, 2025): this is the bare minimum needed for installation - the cuda drivers are very large and take gigabytes of storage, and so do all the many many other dependencies. You say you checked for existing discussions and issues - did you? This is a duplicate issue. The physical size of open webui has been discussed many times and ideas of how to optionally reduce it (by e.g. having a more minimal version) have been discussed. Please do not open duplicate issues.
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@rgaricano commented on GitHub (Aug 14, 2025):

But if you use same venv it doesn't download each time, just update if necessary or install news.
In my install I don't use venv, I use installed python libs, the install of requirements is so quick.

That's are the libs>10Mb that are installed for run openwebui... which of these do you suggest to be removed?

2,7G ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/nvidia
1,6G ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/torch
540M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/triton
289M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/open_webui
255M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/tencentcloud
227M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cusparselt
170M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/milvus_lite
141M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pyarrow
128M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/playwright
113M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/scipy
108M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/transformers
91M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/opencv_python.libs
86M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/googleapiclient
81M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/av.libs
79M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cv2
75M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pandas
74M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sympy
69M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/ctranslate2.libs
63M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/opencv_python_headless.libs
63M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/ctranslate2
50M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sklearn
42M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/onnxruntime
42M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/moto
39M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/numpy
37M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/numpy.libs
35M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/kubernetes
34M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/av
29M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/google
27M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/scipy.libs
27M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/fontTools
27M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/botocore
26M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/langchain_community
23M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/zstandard
22M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy
18M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/networkx
17M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/uvloop
16M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/rapidocr_onnxruntime
16M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pip
15M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/langchain
15M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/grpc
14M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cryptography
13M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/nltk
13M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lxml
12M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/rapidfuzz
11M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/elasticsearch
11M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/azure

@rgaricano commented on GitHub (Aug 14, 2025): But if you use same venv it doesn't download each time, just update if necessary or install news. In my install I don't use venv, I use installed python libs, the install of requirements is so quick. That's are the libs>10Mb that are installed for run openwebui... which of these do you suggest to be removed? 2,7G ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/nvidia 1,6G ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/torch 540M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/triton 289M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/open_webui 255M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/tencentcloud 227M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cusparselt 170M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/milvus_lite 141M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pyarrow 128M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/playwright 113M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/scipy 108M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/transformers 91M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/opencv_python.libs 86M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/googleapiclient 81M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/av.libs 79M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cv2 75M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pandas 74M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sympy 69M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/ctranslate2.libs 63M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/opencv_python_headless.libs 63M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/ctranslate2 50M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sklearn 42M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/onnxruntime 42M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/moto 39M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/numpy 37M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/numpy.libs 35M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/kubernetes 34M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/av 29M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/google 27M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/scipy.libs 27M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/fontTools 27M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/botocore 26M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/langchain_community 23M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/zstandard 22M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy 18M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/networkx 17M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/uvloop 16M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/rapidocr_onnxruntime 16M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pip 15M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/langchain 15M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/grpc 14M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cryptography 13M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/nltk 13M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lxml 12M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/rapidfuzz 11M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/elasticsearch 11M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/azure
GiteaMirror commented 2025-11-11 16:44:59 -06:00
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@Ivan2getdmodelz commented on GitHub (Aug 18, 2025):

But if you use same venv it doesn't download each time, just update if necessary or install news. In my install I don't use venv, I use installed python libs, the install of requirements is so quick.

That's are the libs>10Mb that are installed for run openwebui... which of these do you suggest to be removed?

2,7G ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/nvidia 1,6G ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/torch 540M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/triton 289M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/open_webui 255M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/tencentcloud 227M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cusparselt 170M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/milvus_lite 141M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pyarrow 128M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/playwright 113M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/scipy 108M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/transformers 91M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/opencv_python.libs 86M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/googleapiclient 81M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/av.libs 79M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cv2 75M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pandas 74M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sympy 69M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/ctranslate2.libs 63M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/opencv_python_headless.libs 63M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/ctranslate2 50M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sklearn 42M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/onnxruntime 42M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/moto 39M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/numpy 37M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/numpy.libs 35M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/kubernetes 34M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/av 29M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/google 27M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/scipy.libs 27M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/fontTools 27M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/botocore 26M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/langchain_community 23M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/zstandard 22M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy 18M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/networkx 17M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/uvloop 16M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/rapidocr_onnxruntime 16M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pip 15M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/langchain 15M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/grpc 14M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cryptography 13M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/nltk 13M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lxml 12M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/rapidfuzz 11M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/elasticsearch 11M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/azure

Thanks, rgaricano. Your reply was helpful.

@Ivan2getdmodelz commented on GitHub (Aug 18, 2025): > But if you use same venv it doesn't download each time, just update if necessary or install news. In my install I don't use venv, I use installed python libs, the install of requirements is so quick. > > That's are the libs>10Mb that are installed for run openwebui... which of these do you suggest to be removed? > > 2,7G ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/nvidia 1,6G ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/torch 540M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/triton 289M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/open_webui 255M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/tencentcloud 227M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cusparselt 170M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/milvus_lite 141M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pyarrow 128M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/playwright 113M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/scipy 108M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/transformers 91M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/opencv_python.libs 86M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/googleapiclient 81M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/av.libs 79M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cv2 75M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pandas 74M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sympy 69M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/ctranslate2.libs 63M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/opencv_python_headless.libs 63M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/ctranslate2 50M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sklearn 42M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/onnxruntime 42M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/moto 39M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/numpy 37M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/numpy.libs 35M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/kubernetes 34M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/av 29M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/google 27M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/scipy.libs 27M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/fontTools 27M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/botocore 26M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/langchain_community 23M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/zstandard 22M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/sqlalchemy 18M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/networkx 17M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/uvloop 16M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/rapidocr_onnxruntime 16M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/pip 15M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/langchain 15M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/grpc 14M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/cryptography 13M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/nltk 13M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/lxml 12M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/rapidfuzz 11M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/elasticsearch 11M ./venv/lib/python3.12/site-packages/azure Thanks, rgaricano. Your reply was helpful.
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@Ivan2getdmodelz commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):

Also, a freeze to generate a requirements.txt list isn't what I'd consider a minimal install....

@Ivan2getdmodelz commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025): Also, a freeze to generate a requirements.txt list isn't what I'd consider a minimal install....
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@rgaricano commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):

For reference,
here are the libraries from requirements.txt that could be skipped for a default configuration:

Core Dependencies (Cannot Skip)

The following are essential for basic functionality and cannot be skipped:

  • fastapi, uvicorn, pydantic - Core web framework
  • python-multipart, python-socketio - Web functionality
  • python-jose, passlib, cryptography, bcrypt - Authentication/security
  • requests, aiohttp, httpx - HTTP clients
  • sqlalchemy, alembic, peewee - Database functionality
  • loguru, APScheduler - Logging and task scheduling

Optional Dependencies That Can Be Skipped

Vector Database Options (Skip if not using RAG)

Multiple vector database clients are provided, but only one is needed:

  • chromadb (default), pymilvus, qdrant-client, opensearch-py, elasticsearch, pinecone, oracledb

Database Backend Options (Skip if using default SQLite)

Alternative database backends can be skipped:

  • psycopg2-binary, pgvector, PyMySQL, pymongo - Only needed for PostgreSQL, MySQL, or MongoDB
  • redis - Only needed for caching and real-time features

Document Processing (Skip if not using file uploads/RAG)

Document processing libraries are optional:

  • pypdf, fpdf2, python-pptx, docx2txt, unstructured, nltk - Document parsing
  • opencv-python-headless, rapidocr-onnxruntime, pillow - Image/OCR processing
  • pandas, openpyxl, pyxlsb, xlrd - Spreadsheet processing

Audio Features (Skip if not using speech-to-text/TTS)

Audio processing libraries are optional:

  • faster-whisper, soundfile, pydub - Speech processing and audio conversion

Web Search/Crawling (Skip if not using web search)

Web search capabilities are optional:

  • ddgs, playwright, firecrawl-py, youtube-transcript-api, pytube - Web search and content extraction

Cloud Storage (Skip if using local storage)

Cloud storage providers can be skipped:

  • boto3, google-cloud-storage, azure-identity, azure-storage-blob - Cloud storage backends
  • google-api-python-client, google-auth-httplib2, google-auth-oauthlib - Google Drive integration

AI Provider SDKs (Skip providers you don't use)

Specific AI provider libraries are optional:

  • anthropic, google-genai, google-generativeai, tencentcloud-sdk-python

Monitoring/Observability (Skip if not needed)

Monitoring tools are optional:

  • posthog, langfuse - Analytics and LLM observability
  • opentelemetry-* packages - Distributed tracing

Development/Testing Tools (Skip in production)

Development dependencies can be skipped:

  • black, docker, pytest, pytest-docker - Development and testing tools
@rgaricano commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025): For reference, here are the libraries from `requirements.txt` that could be skipped for a default configuration: ## Core Dependencies (Cannot Skip) The following are essential for basic functionality and cannot be skipped: - `fastapi`, `uvicorn`, `pydantic` - Core web framework - `python-multipart`, `python-socketio` - Web functionality - `python-jose`, `passlib`, `cryptography`, `bcrypt` - Authentication/security - `requests`, `aiohttp`, `httpx` - HTTP clients - `sqlalchemy`, `alembic`, `peewee` - Database functionality - `loguru`, `APScheduler` - Logging and task scheduling ## Optional Dependencies That Can Be Skipped ### Vector Database Options (Skip if not using RAG) Multiple vector database clients are provided, but only one is needed: - `chromadb` (default), `pymilvus`, `qdrant-client`, `opensearch-py`, `elasticsearch`, `pinecone`, `oracledb` ### Database Backend Options (Skip if using default SQLite) Alternative database backends can be skipped: - `psycopg2-binary`, `pgvector`, `PyMySQL`, `pymongo` - Only needed for PostgreSQL, MySQL, or MongoDB - `redis` - Only needed for caching and real-time features ### Document Processing (Skip if not using file uploads/RAG) Document processing libraries are optional: - `pypdf`, `fpdf2`, `python-pptx`, `docx2txt`, `unstructured`, `nltk` - Document parsing - `opencv-python-headless`, `rapidocr-onnxruntime`, `pillow` - Image/OCR processing - `pandas`, `openpyxl`, `pyxlsb`, `xlrd` - Spreadsheet processing ### Audio Features (Skip if not using speech-to-text/TTS) Audio processing libraries are optional: - `faster-whisper`, `soundfile`, `pydub` - Speech processing and audio conversion ### Web Search/Crawling (Skip if not using web search) Web search capabilities are optional: - `ddgs`, `playwright`, `firecrawl-py`, `youtube-transcript-api`, `pytube` - Web search and content extraction ### Cloud Storage (Skip if using local storage) Cloud storage providers can be skipped: - `boto3`, `google-cloud-storage`, `azure-identity`, `azure-storage-blob` - Cloud storage backends - `google-api-python-client`, `google-auth-httplib2`, `google-auth-oauthlib` - Google Drive integration ### AI Provider SDKs (Skip providers you don't use) Specific AI provider libraries are optional: - `anthropic`, `google-genai`, `google-generativeai`, `tencentcloud-sdk-python` ### Monitoring/Observability (Skip if not needed) Monitoring tools are optional: - `posthog`, `langfuse` - Analytics and LLM observability - `opentelemetry-*` packages - Distributed tracing ### Development/Testing Tools (Skip in production) Development dependencies can be skipped: - `black`, `docker`, `pytest`, `pytest-docker` - Development and testing tools
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@Ivan2getdmodelz commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):

@rgaricano Much appreciated. This is exactly the breakdown I was hoping to find.

@Ivan2getdmodelz commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025): @rgaricano Much appreciated. This is exactly the breakdown I was hoping to find.
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