[GH-ISSUE #15379] issue: UserValves not rendered for a Pipe #120860

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GiteaMirror · 2026-05-20T22:36:29-05:00

GiteaMirror commented

2026-05-20 22:36:29 -05:00

Originally created by @git2212 on GitHub (Jun 28, 2025).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/open-webui/open-webui/issues/15379

Check Existing Issues

I have searched the existing issues and discussions.
I am using the latest version of Open WebUI.

Installation Method

Docker

Open WebUI Version

0.6.15

Ollama Version (if applicable)

n/a

Operating System

Ubuntu 22.04

Browser (if applicable)

Firefox 139.0.4

Confirmation

I have read and followed all instructions in README.md.
I am using the latest version of both Open WebUI and Ollama.
I have included the browser console logs.
I have included the Docker container logs.
I have provided every relevant configuration, setting, and environment variable used in my setup.
I have clearly listed every relevant configuration, custom setting, environment variable, and command-line option that influences my setup (such as Docker Compose overrides, .env values, browser settings, authentication configurations, etc).
I have documented step-by-step reproduction instructions that are precise, sequential, and leave nothing to interpretation. My steps:
Start with the initial platform/version/OS and dependencies used,
Specify exact install/launch/configure commands,
List URLs visited, user input (incl. example values/emails/passwords if needed),
Describe all options and toggles enabled or changed,
Include any files or environmental changes,
Identify the expected and actual result at each stage,
Ensure any reasonably skilled user can follow and hit the same issue.

Expected Behavior

UserValves to be rendered for a 'Pipe' class for any login.

Actual Behavior

UserValves are not rendered for a 'Pipe' class, while Valves work fine when logged in as admin. The same code works for a 'Tool'.

Steps to Reproduce

Here's a snippet:

`
class Pipe:
class Valves(BaseModel):
"""System administrator-level configuration."""

    a_debug: bool = Field(default=True, description="Enable or disable debug mode.")
    pass
class UserValves(BaseModel):
    """User-level configuration (overrides Valves if set)."""

    MCP_API_KEY: str = Field(
        default="none",
        description="API key for authenticating requests to the MCP endpoint.",
    )
    pass

`
In the above anything under UserValves is not rendering in the UI.

Logs & Screenshots

No errors are logged

Additional Information

Unless I am missing something about the UI/features, it appears that UserValves in general do not work for 'Pipe' as it is treated as a model and not a Tool or a function. Users don't appear to have the ability to modify 'Pipe' valves.

If this is the case:

The documentation needs to be updated so that it accurately reflects these limitations and not conflate Tools with Pipe.
It is a significant oversight in the design and should be addressed as it limits the usefulness of OwUI for use-cases more complex than playing around with a few LLMs.

Originally created by @git2212 on GitHub (Jun 28, 2025). Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/open-webui/open-webui/issues/15379 ### Check Existing Issues - [x] I have searched the existing issues and discussions. - [x] I am using the latest version of Open WebUI. ### Installation Method Docker ### Open WebUI Version 0.6.15 ### Ollama Version (if applicable) n/a ### Operating System Ubuntu 22.04 ### Browser (if applicable) Firefox 139.0.4 ### Confirmation - [x] I have read and followed all instructions in `README.md`. - [x] I am using the latest version of **both** Open WebUI and Ollama. - [x] I have included the browser console logs. - [x] I have included the Docker container logs. - [x] I have **provided every relevant configuration, setting, and environment variable used in my setup.** - [x] I have clearly **listed every relevant configuration, custom setting, environment variable, and command-line option that influences my setup** (such as Docker Compose overrides, .env values, browser settings, authentication configurations, etc). - [x] I have documented **step-by-step reproduction instructions that are precise, sequential, and leave nothing to interpretation**. My steps: - Start with the initial platform/version/OS and dependencies used, - Specify exact install/launch/configure commands, - List URLs visited, user input (incl. example values/emails/passwords if needed), - Describe all options and toggles enabled or changed, - Include any files or environmental changes, - Identify the expected and actual result at each stage, - Ensure any reasonably skilled user can follow and hit the same issue. ### Expected Behavior UserValves to be rendered for a 'Pipe' class for any login. ### Actual Behavior UserValves are not rendered for a 'Pipe' class, while Valves work fine when logged in as admin. The same code works for a 'Tool'. ### Steps to Reproduce Here's a snippet: ` class Pipe: class Valves(BaseModel): """System administrator-level configuration.""" a_debug: bool = Field(default=True, description="Enable or disable debug mode.") pass class UserValves(BaseModel): """User-level configuration (overrides Valves if set).""" MCP_API_KEY: str = Field( default="none", description="API key for authenticating requests to the MCP endpoint.", ) pass ` In the above anything under UserValves is not rendering in the UI. ### Logs & Screenshots No errors are logged ### Additional Information Unless I am missing something about the UI/features, it appears that UserValves in general do not work for 'Pipe' as it is treated as a model and not a Tool or a function. Users don't appear to have the ability to modify 'Pipe' valves. If this is the case: 1. The documentation needs to be updated so that it accurately reflects these limitations and not conflate Tools with Pipe. 2. It is a significant oversight in the design and should be addressed as it limits the usefulness of OwUI for use-cases more complex than playing around with a few LLMs.

GiteaMirror added the bug label 2026-05-20 22:36:29 -05:00

GiteaMirror closed this issue

2026-05-20 22:36:39 -05:00

GiteaMirror commented

2026-05-20 22:36:42 -05:00

@tjbck commented on GitHub (Jun 30, 2025):

Cannot reproduce, It's there.

@tjbck commented on GitHub (Jun 30, 2025): ![Image](https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/35705932-28aa-4d2c-bae7-24fcf872f532) Cannot reproduce, It's there.

GiteaMirror commented

2026-05-20 22:36:43 -05:00

@silentoplayz commented on GitHub (Jun 30, 2025):

I can't reproduce this issue either. UserValves for pipe functions are accessible via the Valves section in the Chat Controls sidebar.

@silentoplayz commented on GitHub (Jun 30, 2025): I can't reproduce this issue either. UserValves for pipe functions are accessible via the `Valves` section in the `Chat Controls` sidebar.

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Reference: github-starred/open-webui#120860