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[GH-ISSUE #12781] After updating from ollama 0.9.3 gpu offloading stopped working on models larger than VRAM #8478
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Originally created by @kiliansinger on GitHub (Oct 25, 2025).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/12781
What is the issue?
Working on windows 11, with RTX 4070 8GB VRAM I successfully used 13GB models such as Qwen3-Coder-30B-A3B-Instruct-1M-Unsloth:UD-IQ3_XXS. After upgrading to newer versions of ollama this feature stopped to work, rendering the use of these models too slow on typical CPUs. This issue is related to the closed issue 11676. There it was proposed that the issue is resolved by upgrading from older cuda v11. But I was already on cuda v13.
Proposed PR https://github.com/ollama/ollama/pull/12856
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@rick-github commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
Server log will help in debugging.
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
Here is the server log starting
in the following presented for ollama 0.12.6 (failing approx. 95% of cases), then for ollama 0.9.3 (running stable 100% of cases).
Interestingly I also found that in 5% of cases (after rebooting) ollama 0.12.6 would run through. This is also listed as third log.
Here are the log outputs
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
Does it work any better if you set
OLLAMA_LLM_LIBRARY=cuda_v12in the server environment?@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
I also can say that ollama 0.9.4 started with the same issue as 0.12.6
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
I am experienced with git bisect if you want I can perform a git bisect.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/12781#issuecomment-3448708987
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
Same problem on ollama 0.12.6:
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
Does it work any better if you set
OLLAMA_LLM_LIBRARY=cuda_v12in the server environment?@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
I did some tests:
And this is the result with OLLAMA_LLM_LIBRARY=cuda_v12
fail,fail,(fail,ok),ok,(fail,fail,ok)
(...) means same login session.
So one can see that repetetive starts can sometimes work.
Then I also did the same in one login session with OLLAMA_LLM_LIBRARY unset.
It failed about10 times and then finally worked in the samesession.
After stopping the model and reloading it it again failed.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
Logs.
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
I also can be in a login session where none of the starts lead to a success
This is the log for all those starts:
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
None of these logs have
OLLAMA_LLM_LIBRARY=cuda_v12.@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
weird. let me erase the logs and restart. I will now add it to the windows system environment settings to make shure that it is set.
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
I can now verify that environment is set as proposed in the server.log.
Here a single login session where it failed 10 times and never succeeded:
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
And here with ollama 0.12.6 environment variable set as proposed running through:
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
This might be a coincidence but my system also starts the ollama gui for chatting. And it seems that the loading works in more cases shortly before the loading being finished.
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
No it is just a coincidence.
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
but it seems to be more reliable when I wait until the ollama icon appeared in the system tray. But if I do
ollama stop ... ollama run...then after it was running once it would never work again.@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
And if I wait too long then it also does not work. Ideally just when the icon loaded. And of course
ollama psis empty for all those tests. So no other app loads models.@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
Okay it works in all cases when I do
ollama run BIGMODELright after the ollama icon is loaded where the up-arrow icon in the notification area allows one to see the symbols...@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
I also tried to set OLLAMA_LLM_LIBRARY=cuda_v13 but it does not make a difference. Only a few seconds after the ollama icon is loaded to the notification area you always get a fail of loading big models. And small models still work always.
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
If I do not use the environment variable being set then I can still get it to run if I start
ollama run BIGMODELwithin a few second interval after the ollama icon appears.@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
Maybe also of relevance I have also AMD GPU in the laptop due to the CPU:
AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 w/ Radeon 890M
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
But I think it does not matter because problem persists if I remove the rocm folder. Also if I remove the cuda_12 and cuda_13 folder it is forced to use cpu and loads.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Oct 26, 2025):
Try rolling back the drivers to v12: https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda-12-9-0-download-archive
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 27, 2025):
did not improve.
log:
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 27, 2025):
the cuda error is weird as the folder c:\a does not exist:
ollama is installed here: C:\Users\k\AppData\Local\Programs\Ollama\ollama.exe
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 27, 2025):
I want to try to do
git bisect. So following docs/development.md I got all prerequisite working and did successful compile. But I cannot find a ollama.exe file.It generates a lot of dll files. But how can use them. also
go run . servedoes not do much.@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 27, 2025):
I guess best I look at the workflow...seems to be using a script at scripts/build_windows.ps1 and seems to use msys
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 27, 2025):
I am able to compile and generate fully ollama 0.12.6.
I used newest cuda 13 and compiled also only cuda 13.
need to set in system environment variables: OLLAMA_LLM_LIBRARY = cuda_v13
I first thought it runs better but it actually has the same rates of failures of about 90%. It just happened that right after compiling and installing it worked three times in a row.
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 29, 2025):
finally done with git bisect here is the first commit that introduced the regression bug:
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 29, 2025):
a side note the above code changes correlate well with the log error message:
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 30, 2025):
The probabilistic behaviour I noticed and described above could mean it is a race condition. My suspicion is raced by:
bool reserving_graph = false;
which is written and read by multiple functions that could run in parallel.
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 30, 2025):
I found uninitalized variable in gglm-cuda.cu line 656:
static std::atomic ggml_cuda_lock_counter;
but setting it to zero also did not fix the issue.
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 30, 2025):
I can get it 100% running if I force the alloc value to true.
So the runner\ollamarunner\runner.go line
AllocMemory: true// req.Operation != llm.LoadOperationFit
So my conclusion is that the alloc=false fails. But weirdly sometimes it works.
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 30, 2025):
yes this worked: see PR https://github.com/ollama/ollama/pull/12856
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Nov 2, 2025):
Version 0.12.9 solves this issue.