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Originally created by @vt-alt on GitHub (Oct 17, 2025).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/12674
What is the issue?
Since v0.12.4 and up to v0.12.6,
gpt-oss:20bdoes not run on CUDA (the test is on RTX 4090), while v0.12.3 worked OK.Previously it was saying:
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Manual build since v0.12.4 - including v0.12.6 intended for packaging but since the regress it cannot be packaged.
@sucream commented on GitHub (Oct 17, 2025):
I had the same problem.
When you upgrade your Ollama in Linux, you must remove previous version of Ollama.
The Ollama team said
If you are upgrading from a prior version, you MUST remove the old libraries with sudo rm -rf /usr/lib/ollama first.@rick-github commented on GitHub (Oct 17, 2025):
sucream is correct, the CUDA library is being loaded from the wrong location.
The recommendation is to use the official install.
@vt-alt commented on GitHub (Oct 17, 2025):
We package build it into rpm, so it replaces all the files automatically when we upgrade. Also, it's built with
-DGGML_BACKEND_DIR=%_libexecdir/ollamaso the location is intended.It consistently works on CUDA before version v0.12.4 (with all previous versions we compiled, stated to build for CUDA from v0.5.13), and then since v0.12.4,5,6 and it's uses only CPU.
We cannot use official binaries since for our distro (ALT Linux) we only build from sources.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Oct 17, 2025):
Perhaps, but the library usually lives in a cuda_v12 directory. If your build process is not preserving the directory structure, it's no wonder it stopped working.
@vt-alt commented on GitHub (Oct 17, 2025):
Thanks for the suggestion! I will try to investigate
OLLAMA_RUNNER_DIRusage.@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 30, 2025):
I had similar problems with other model and could fix it with this PR: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/pull/12856
@vt-alt commented on GitHub (Oct 31, 2025):
Well, in our case this is not a crash, but ollama is unable to calculate VRAM size. By the log you see that ggml finds cuda libs (see
load_backendlines, also, moving into "cuda_v12" dir does not help, and this is just build option, we don't move files after cmake installs them). This feature is introduced in the HUGE commitbc8909fb38I tried to strace and there is no obvious errors (cuda and nvidia files are loaded). Perhaps, the difference from mainline build is slight, but I'm unable to comprehend it yet.
Everything builds and installs as before (this commit) so other downstream builders may not even notice regression.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Oct 31, 2025):
What's the output of the following commands:
@vt-alt commented on GitHub (Oct 31, 2025):
First I want to note, since this is for a distribution we package to standard (LSB) directories, the quality check will not pass the package if it packs ELF objects in wrong trees. But, I can package perfectly
libggml-cuda.sointocuda_v12subdir if needed, ❶ I only removed the infix since we don't have CUDA versions other than v12. Also, ❷ since we have CUDA v12 in the repository we don't need to bundle CUDA libs like you do, the correct CUDA libs are in the system and will be maintained automatically correctly by the package system.Therefore, native building for a particular distribution is a different thing than universal builds for any distributions, and is not incorrect just because it's somehow different. And we can avoid packaging a lot of redundant files (avoiding to have ~2GB package).
But, see that cuda module is correctly linked with the system libraries and libggml-base.so:
Unsynchronized upgrade of the libraries or binaries is impossible due to strict package dependencies. It installs to exactly the same packages (i.e. libs) it's built for.
(The same build process worked well for v0.12.3, and cuda acceleration was working.)
As an experiment I created correct symlinks:
After restart of ollama.service it still didn't find vram and working only on cpu.
ps. I noticed in strace logs that some logging goes into /dev/null, and will try to enable it.
441676 write(2</dev/null>, "ggml_backend_cuda_device_get_memory utilizing NVML memory reporting free: 25174212608 total: 25757220864\n", 105) = 105@rick-github commented on GitHub (Oct 31, 2025):
It's incorrect because it doesn't work, not because it's different. Different is fine. Arch, for example, has a different build and it works fine. We need to figure out why yours doesn't. What's the simplest way to do an ALT Linux install in a VM? Iso? Or docker image?
@vt-alt commented on GitHub (Oct 31, 2025):
Yeah, I don't blame the failure on you, and just want to make it work again and maybe some suggestions or debugging hints. This may be useful for other builders too.
We didn't commit the regressed package into the repository, it's still in the testing queue, so I will prepare test install instructions for Docker. Thanks.
It's useful to know Arch have working builds I will investigate more how they do it, thanks again.
@kiliansinger commented on GitHub (Oct 31, 2025):
I posted a PR that might fix your issue which started with v0.12.3 in my case: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/pull/12856
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Oct 31, 2025):
Would you please stop spamming issues with your PR. It has no relevance to this one or the others you posted it to.
@vt-alt commented on GitHub (Oct 31, 2025):
First, I thought to reproduce the success of Arch in Docker, but, it seems, there is the same problem. My steps for Arch:
But there is no similar bug reports in Arch bug tracker for ollama:
https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/ollama/-/issues?sort=created_date&state=all
(There is only bug report that it stopped working on CUDA v13 for very old NVIDIA Pascal Architecture. But we have CUDA v12 and GPU is 4090, so this is a different thing.) I wonder if it works on GPU for other people.
I tested on Arch with ollama installed from the Archive (date 2025/09/27) to get version
0.12.3(the last one worked on GPU for us) to test my gpu+docker setup and it runs on GPU! jfyi, my steps:So the same box, GPU,
docker runcan run ollama on GPU and then not, with supposedly correct Arch build, this becomes even more puzzling for me what is different.@vt-alt commented on GitHub (Oct 31, 2025):
JFYI, this is unrelated, but because it's now on CPU for me I noticed 50% performance degradation for v0.12.7 (built by me in the same way as v0.12.6), the test is with 2 consecutive runs of
ollama run --verbose gpt-oss:20b hioni9-10900:ollama-0.12.6
total duration: 9.131255307s
load duration: 3.185033924s
prompt eval count: 68 token(s)
prompt eval duration: 1.481592551s
prompt eval rate: 45.90 tokens/s
eval count: 33 token(s)
eval duration: 4.413564763s
eval rate: 7.48 tokens/s
total duration: 5.732011048s
load duration: 166.657341ms
prompt eval count: 68 token(s)
prompt eval duration: 138.470444ms
prompt eval rate: 491.08 tokens/s
eval count: 40 token(s)
eval duration: 5.41032075s
eval rate: 7.39 tokens/s
ollama-0.12.7
total duration: 16.626052217s
load duration: 184.671881ms
prompt eval count: 68 token(s)
prompt eval duration: 286.664223ms
prompt eval rate: 237.21 tokens/s
eval count: 48 token(s)
eval duration: 16.132840691s
eval rate: 2.98 tokens/s
total duration: 10.061348294s
load duration: 195.0805ms
prompt eval count: 68 token(s)
prompt eval duration: 288.919604ms
prompt eval rate: 235.36 tokens/s
eval count: 34 token(s)
eval duration: 9.56369189s
eval rate: 3.56 tokens/s
I can create another bug report if you wish.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Oct 31, 2025):
Performance decrease for CPU only is likely https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/12886.
@vt-alt commented on GitHub (Nov 2, 2025):
We figured out what is the problem with our build. Since we have PTX JIT compiler we only compile for 2 virtual CUDA architectures (
-DCMAKE_CUDA_ARCHITECTURES='52-virtual;80-virtual') to save space. This made nvcc define__CUDA_ARCH_LIST__as520,800. The RTX 4090 we use for tests is compute capability 8.9, as a consequence, this ollama-specific code triggers assertion failure, because it tries to find in the__CUDA_ARCH_LIST__the exact match with890:I'd suggest this code is somehow reworked (or removed?), for example
ggml_cuda_has_arch()call could be replaced withggml_cuda_highest_compiled_arch() > 0.AFAIK, the exact architecture code comparison is not completely reflect CUDA compatibility model even for real architectures, because CUDA have some backward compatibility inside of major compute capability. So
sm_80cubin code should be runnable onsm_89GPU (even though slower), but not vice versa. PTX (which you compile too) provides even greater "forward" compatibility with the small cost of first-time start delay (seconds, of compiling PTX to native code). You can see more details there https://docs.nvidia.com/cuda/ampere-compatibility-guide/What helped is to have
OLLAMA_DEBUG=2, in that case there is appeared error message:ollama[991926]: /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/ollama-0.12.7/ml/backend/ggml/ggml/src/ggml-cuda/ggml-cuda.cu:329: GGML_ASSERT(ggml_cuda_has_arch(info.devices[id].cc) && "ggml was not compiled with support for this arch") failedand we see that runner is aborted, then it's matter of code reading.