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Originally created by @alromb01 on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/11986
What is the issue?
Since version 0.11.5, the models are always placed on multiple GPUs, even if one GPU has more than enough RAM to serve the request. It's happening both with
OLLAMA_NEW_ESTIMATES=0andOLLAMA_NEW_ESTIMATES=1.Further environment variables:
OLLAMA_FLASH_ATTENTION=1
OLLAMA_KV_CACHE_TYPE=q8_0
Setting
OLLAMA_SCHED_SPREAD=falseis not a viable solution as it would prevent being able to use multiple GPUs when it's indeed required.Because of that, the generated tokens per second for gpt-oss:20b went from 100 (when the model is running exclusively on H200) to now around 35 .
Similarly, the tokens/s for Llama3.3-70b-q8 went from 40 to around 27.
Is this intended w.r.t the "new memory management" introduced in this release?
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@rick-github commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):
Full log.
@alromb01 commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):
Due to logging on TRACE level, here as a file: log.txt (with
OLLAMA_NEW_ESTIMATES=0)@rick-github commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):
This log shows gpt-oss:20b being loaded entirely onto a single NVIDIA H200 NVL.
@alromb01 commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):
this is the output of
nvtop. The request spawns two small fragments on the other GPUs. Also, the GPU usage is really low. Both did not happen with version 0.11.4.This behavior does not change with
OLLAMA_NEW_ESTIMATES=0andOLLAMA_NEW_ESTIMATES=1Stats with
OLLAMA_NEW_ESTIMATES=0:Model load time: 4.992 seconds
Time to first token (TTFT) (model_load + prompt_eval): 5.301 seconds
Generation speed: 31.83 tokens/sec
Prompt tokens: 90 | Generation tokens: 1107
Overall duration: 40.17 seconds
Stats with
OLLAMA_NEW_ESTIMATES=1:Model load time: 4.421 seconds
Time to first token (TTFT) (model_load + prompt_eval): 4.749 seconds
Generation speed: 34.22 tokens/sec
Prompt tokens: 90 | Generation tokens: 1518
Overall duration: 49.19 seconds
So while the option of OLLAMA_NEW_ESTIMATES seems to improve performance, it's still far off the performance of version 0.11.4 where I achieved ~ 100 tokens/s.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):
https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/11923#issuecomment-3192171487
Do you have logs for 0.11.4?
@dan-and commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):
As explained by @jessegross in #11923 : Before the subprocess was only allowed to see the necessary GPUs through the use of CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES, so they were masked out at the CUDA level. Now, it sees all of GPUs but only schedules on the appropriate ones.
So yes, you have seen that same effect and stumbled over the 3 rows, which is a different behavior than before, but if you look closely to the memory allocation, only the GPU0 is in use, which is the intended behavior when OLLAMA_SPREAD_SCHED=0 .
Also, if you keep running, you will see that there will be no load on the other GPUs, so they will go into power savings.
So the main issue you still have: Why is the performance degraded between 0.11.4 and 0.11.5-rc2 ? Please provide log files of both versions with the same settings.
@jessegross commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):
@alromb01 Note that in the first, partial log the model is getting split across GPUs, likely due to the old estimates over-estimating memory usage with the combination of a longer context and flash attention. OLLAMA_NEW_ESTIMATES=1 should help with this. However, the default behavior should not have changed between versions.
As others have said, the second, full log shows the model being fully loaded on the H200 alone. I wouldn't expect that OLLAMA_NEW_ESTIMATES will help in this case, so something else might be going on.
@alromb01 commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):
Here is the full log now with
OLLAMA_NEW_ESTIMATES=1still on version 0.11.5: log_newEstimates1_0.11.5.txt.Again, with reduced performance of:
Model load time: 4.358 seconds
Time to first token (TTFT) (model_load + prompt_eval): 4.651 seconds
Generation speed: 35.85 tokens/sec
Prompt tokens: 90 | Generation tokens: 836
Overall duration: 28.07 seconds
Will update with a log for 0.11.4.
@alromb01 commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):
And now the same setup/prompt with version 0.11.4:
Model load time: 4.936 seconds
Time to first token (TTFT) (model_load + prompt_eval): 5.354 seconds
Generation speed: 97.34 tokens/sec
Prompt tokens: 90 | Generation tokens: 2882
Overall duration: 35.07 seconds
See nvtop with much higher GPU usage:

Here the full log:
log_0.11.4.txt
@jessegross commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2025):
The gpt-oss issues might be related to flash attention. In 0.11.4, flash attention didn't work and was disabled (for gpt-oss). In 0.11.5 this was fixed and it was enabled. However, the performance with flash attention is much better with the upcoming 0.11.6 - you can try the rc0 now if you like. You can also try turning off OLLAMA_FLASH_ATTENTION to see if that equalizes performance between versions.
There is no equivalent change to llama3.3 in terms of flash attention being enabled/disabled between versions, so I'm not sure why that would change. However, that one does show splitting between GPUs so there might be something different that triggered that.
@alromb01 commented on GitHub (Aug 21, 2025):
Thanks for the heads up, just tested with 0.11.6 and got the following results for
gpt-oss:20b🎉(also with
OLLAMA_FLASH_ATTENTION=1,OLLAMA_KV_CACHE_TYPE=q8_0)Model load time: 4.337 seconds
Time to first token (TTFT) (model_load + prompt_eval): 4.629 seconds
Generation speed: 146.75 tokens/sec
Prompt tokens: 90 | Generation tokens: 650
Overall duration: 9.15 seconds
gpt-oss:120bis now also running with > 100 tokens/secAnd for
llama3.3:70b-instruct-q4_0:Model load time: 8.616 seconds
Time to first token (TTFT) (model_load + prompt_eval): 8.721 seconds
Generation speed: 41.22 tokens/sec
Prompt tokens: 30 | Generation tokens: 44
Overall duration: 9.79 seconds
@jessegross commented on GitHub (Aug 21, 2025):
@alromb01 That's great to hear. Sounds like everything is working at this point and we can close the issue?
@alromb01 commented on GitHub (Aug 21, 2025):
@jessegross yes, thanks