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Originally created by @noinformationavailable on GitHub (May 30, 2025).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/10914
--hidethinkingoption has also been added to the CLI. This makesit easy to use thinking in scripting scenarios like
ollama run qwen3 --think --hidethinking "my question here"where youjust want to see the answer but still want the benefits of thinking
models
Would this also be possible to add to the API?
@rick-github commented on GitHub (May 30, 2025):
Just ignore the
thinkingfield.@kekePower commented on GitHub (May 31, 2025):
Does Ollama strip away the empty
<think> ... </think>that Qwen3 produces when/no_thinkis set?@rick-github commented on GitHub (May 31, 2025):
WIth 0.9.0+ and
thinkenabled, yes.@kekePower commented on GitHub (May 31, 2025):
Perfect. Thanks for the clarification. This makes my code a bit cleaner and easier to maintain. Great work!
@kekePower commented on GitHub (May 31, 2025):
It seems like Ollama may be looking for something very close to
qwen3, so if I usehf.co/unsloth/Qwen3-8B-GGUF:Q6_K, for example, it doesn't strip away the<think>tags.Can you verify?
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jun 1, 2025):
The ollama thinking API requires support in the template. The template that comes with the unsloth model does not have the appropriate changes. Compare the output of
ollama show --template qwen3andollama show --template hf.co/unsloth/Qwen3-8B-GGUF:Q6_K. You can merge them to get an unsloth model that supports thinking:@kekePower commented on GitHub (Jun 1, 2025):
@rick-github Thanks. I truly appreciate your detailed answer. This is gold and I've been experimenting. The results are awesome.
@kekePower commented on GitHub (Jun 3, 2025):
I've been experimenting with
OLLAMA_NEW_ENGINEand there are differences.With it set to
true:And set to
false:I found a slight performance increase when using the new engine, that's why I am using it.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jun 3, 2025):
Indeed, the new engine has some issues dealing with thinking. qwen3 is the only thinking model on both engines with an updated template so it's hard to say if it's model specific or engine specific.
@drifkin
@drifkin commented on GitHub (Jun 3, 2025):
Thanks for reporting, I'm able to repro where thinking set to false doesn't work on the new engine, but works on the old one. @mxyng I think this is due to the special token issue we spoke about earlier, the
<think>and</think>tokens aren't being tokenized correctly as special tokens. I verified that manually hardcoding them as special in vocabulary.go like sodoes seem to address the problem. What's the right way of fixing this?
@Runlevel-zero commented on GitHub (Jun 3, 2025):
Sorry to repeat the original question,
In a case where ignoring the think tags in the response is not possible, can the think tags be suppressed when model thinking is still desired via the API. in the same vein as the CLI
--hidethinkingargument?@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jun 3, 2025):
How is ignoring the
thinkingfield in the response not a solution?@khromalabs commented on GitHub (Jun 9, 2025):
To add on top of what has been discussed here, there are two endpoints available to generate completion
/api/generateand/api/chatpersonally I'm interested in the 2nd which is the one which allows me to be used in a multi-turn conversation, the thinking output for a reasoner model is still mixed there, only the 1st has a split output yet:@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jun 9, 2025):
thinkdoesn't go inmessages.If the requirement is that the model is allowed to think but the thinking output is hidden, then just enable
thinkbut ignore thethinkingfield in the response:@khromalabs commented on GitHub (Jun 9, 2025):
Ok just noticed something, if the "think" argument is omitted the
<think>..</think>text still appears insidemessage.content, if it's added then it behaves as you are describe, v0.9.0 in here. PS. And you are right I misplaced thethinkargument inside the message@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jun 9, 2025):
Yes, the default behaviour if
thinkis not set is to return the same response as in pre-0.9.0 versions of ollama. This is so that client code that was written to deal with<think></think>will continue to work.@powerman commented on GitHub (Jul 2, 2025):
@rick-github Is anything like this supported on /v1/chat/completions endpoint? I'm using a Neovim plugin which uses that endpoint and looking for a way to disable
<think>tags from output.@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jul 2, 2025):
Unfortunately not. If you are using a qwen3-based model, then you can create a new model with a system message that has
/no-think.You could deploy a proxy that can add
think:falseto the payload and forward to the Ollama API endpoint.Other solutions that require modifying ollama:
thinkthinkflag in the Modelfile.@powerman commented on GitHub (Jul 2, 2025):
/no_thinkdoes not helps - it result in response message starting with empty tags<think> </think>.PR #11249 looks really promising (Neovim plugin I'm using provides a way to add custom params to the HTTP request), I hope it'll be merged!
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jul 2, 2025):
I think the likelihood of it being merged is slim, ollama developers have expressed the view that they will only support features of the published OpenAI API spec, and
optionsis not a field in the spec.