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Originally created by @krishna-winzo on GitHub (Apr 24, 2025).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/10395
What is the issue?
Gemma 3's vision is generating random text on prompting
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@rick-github commented on GitHub (Apr 24, 2025):
Server logs may aid in debugging.
@mchiang0610 commented on GitHub (Apr 25, 2025):
@krishna-winzo would it also be possible to ask for the sample screenshot (if it's appropriate and not sensitive). Okay if not; I'm just trying to reproduce this.
@krishna-winzo commented on GitHub (Apr 25, 2025):
@mchiang0610 Working for other models, seem to be specific to gemma3
@krishna-winzo commented on GitHub (Apr 25, 2025):
@rick-github please find the logs
[GIN] 2025/04/25 - 11:15:38 | 200 | 2.890583ms | 127.0.0.1 | HEAD "/"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:38.658+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=general.alignment default=32
time=2025-04-25T11:15:38.708+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=general.alignment default=32
[GIN] 2025/04/25 - 11:15:38 | 200 | 119.20675ms | 127.0.0.1 | POST "/api/show"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:38.762+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=general.alignment default=32
time=2025-04-25T11:15:38.810+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=general.alignment default=32
time=2025-04-25T11:15:38.855+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=general.alignment default=32
time=2025-04-25T11:15:38.858+05:30 level=INFO source=sched.go:722 msg="new model will fit in available VRAM in single GPU, loading" model=/Users/peddi/.ollama/models/blobs/sha256-aeda25e63ebd698fab8638ffb778e68bed908b960d39d0becc650fa981609d25 gpu=0 parallel=4 available=11453251584 required="5.8 GiB"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:38.862+05:30 level=INFO source=server.go:105 msg="system memory" total="16.0 GiB" free="3.1 GiB" free_swap="0 B"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:38.865+05:30 level=INFO source=server.go:138 msg=offload library=metal layers.requested=-1 layers.model=35 layers.offload=35 layers.split="" memory.available="[10.7 GiB]" memory.gpu_overhead="0 B" memory.required.full="5.8 GiB" memory.required.partial="5.8 GiB" memory.required.kv="682.0 MiB" memory.required.allocations="[5.8 GiB]" memory.weights.total="2.3 GiB" memory.weights.repeating="1.8 GiB" memory.weights.nonrepeating="525.0 MiB" memory.graph.full="517.0 MiB" memory.graph.partial="517.0 MiB" projector.weights="795.9 MiB" projector.graph="1.0 GiB"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:38.989+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=general.alignment default=32
time=2025-04-25T11:15:38.993+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=tokenizer.ggml.add_eot_token default=false
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.000+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=gemma3.attention.layer_norm_rms_epsilon default=9.999999974752427e-07
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.000+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=gemma3.rope.local.freq_base default=10000
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.000+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=gemma3.rope.global.freq_base default=1e+06
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.000+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=gemma3.rope.freq_scale default=1
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.000+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=gemma3.mm_tokens_per_image default=256
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.001+05:30 level=INFO source=server.go:405 msg="starting llama server" cmd="/Applications/Ollama.app/Contents/Resources/ollama runner --ollama-engine --model /Users/peddi/.ollama/models/blobs/sha256-aeda25e63ebd698fab8638ffb778e68bed908b960d39d0becc650fa981609d25 --ctx-size 8192 --batch-size 512 --n-gpu-layers 35 --threads 4 --parallel 4 --port 57311"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.003+05:30 level=INFO source=sched.go:451 msg="loaded runners" count=1
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.003+05:30 level=INFO source=server.go:580 msg="waiting for llama runner to start responding"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.004+05:30 level=INFO source=server.go:614 msg="waiting for server to become available" status="llm server error"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.021+05:30 level=INFO source=runner.go:866 msg="starting ollama engine"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.022+05:30 level=INFO source=runner.go:929 msg="Server listening on 127.0.0.1:57311"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.119+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=general.alignment default=32
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.120+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=general.name default=""
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.120+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=general.description default=""
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.120+05:30 level=INFO source=ggml.go:72 msg="" architecture=gemma3 file_type=Q4_K_M name="" description="" num_tensors=883 num_key_values=36
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.126+05:30 level=INFO source=ggml.go:109 msg=system Metal.0.EMBED_LIBRARY=1 CPU.0.NEON=1 CPU.0.ARM_FMA=1 CPU.0.FP16_VA=1 CPU.0.DOTPROD=1 CPU.0.LLAMAFILE=1 CPU.0.ACCELERATE=1 compiler=cgo(clang)
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.256+05:30 level=INFO source=server.go:614 msg="waiting for server to become available" status="llm server loading model"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.290+05:30 level=INFO source=ggml.go:298 msg="model weights" buffer=CPU size="525.0 MiB"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:39.290+05:30 level=INFO source=ggml.go:298 msg="model weights" buffer=Metal size="3.1 GiB"
ggml_metal_init: allocating
ggml_metal_init: found device: Apple M1
ggml_metal_init: picking default device: Apple M1
ggml_metal_load_library: using embedded metal library
ggml_metal_init: GPU name: Apple M1
ggml_metal_init: GPU family: MTLGPUFamilyApple7 (1007)
ggml_metal_init: GPU family: MTLGPUFamilyCommon3 (3003)
ggml_metal_init: GPU family: MTLGPUFamilyMetal3 (5001)
ggml_metal_init: simdgroup reduction = true
ggml_metal_init: simdgroup matrix mul. = true
ggml_metal_init: has residency sets = false
ggml_metal_init: has bfloat = true
ggml_metal_init: use bfloat = false
ggml_metal_init: hasUnifiedMemory = true
ggml_metal_init: recommendedMaxWorkingSetSize = 11453.25 MB
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_get_rows_bf16 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_mul_mv_bf16_f32 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_mul_mv_bf16_f32_1row (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_mul_mv_bf16_f32_l4 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_mul_mv_bf16_bf16 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_mul_mv_id_bf16_f32 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_mul_mm_bf16_f32 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_mul_mm_id_bf16_f32 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_flash_attn_ext_bf16_h64 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_flash_attn_ext_bf16_h80 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_flash_attn_ext_bf16_h96 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_flash_attn_ext_bf16_h112 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_flash_attn_ext_bf16_h128 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_flash_attn_ext_bf16_h192 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_flash_attn_ext_bf16_hk192_hv128 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_flash_attn_ext_bf16_h256 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_flash_attn_ext_vec_bf16_h128 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_flash_attn_ext_vec_bf16_h192 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_flash_attn_ext_vec_bf16_hk192_hv128 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_flash_attn_ext_vec_bf16_h256 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_cpy_f32_bf16 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_cpy_bf16_f32 (not supported)
ggml_metal_init: skipping kernel_cpy_bf16_bf16 (not supported)
time=2025-04-25T11:15:43.321+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=tokenizer.ggml.add_eot_token default=false
time=2025-04-25T11:15:43.328+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=gemma3.attention.layer_norm_rms_epsilon default=9.999999974752427e-07
time=2025-04-25T11:15:43.328+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=gemma3.rope.local.freq_base default=10000
time=2025-04-25T11:15:43.328+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=gemma3.rope.global.freq_base default=1e+06
time=2025-04-25T11:15:43.328+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=gemma3.rope.freq_scale default=1
time=2025-04-25T11:15:43.328+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=gemma3.mm_tokens_per_image default=256
time=2025-04-25T11:15:43.539+05:30 level=INFO source=ggml.go:556 msg="compute graph" backend=Metal buffer_type=Metal size="162.0 MiB"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:43.539+05:30 level=INFO source=ggml.go:556 msg="compute graph" backend=CPU buffer_type=CPU size="5.0 MiB"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:43.775+05:30 level=INFO source=server.go:619 msg="llama runner started in 4.77 seconds"
[GIN] 2025/04/25 - 11:15:43 | 200 | 5.062082125s | 127.0.0.1 | POST "/api/generate"
[GIN] 2025/04/25 - 11:15:49 | 200 | 58.875µs | 127.0.0.1 | HEAD "/"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:50.061+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=general.alignment default=32
time=2025-04-25T11:15:50.108+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=general.alignment default=32
[GIN] 2025/04/25 - 11:15:50 | 200 | 120.289792ms | 127.0.0.1 | POST "/api/show"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:50.163+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=general.alignment default=32
[GIN] 2025/04/25 - 11:15:50 | 200 | 49.2685ms | 127.0.0.1 | POST "/api/generate"
time=2025-04-25T11:15:59.423+05:30 level=WARN source=ggml.go:152 msg="key not found" key=general.alignment default=32
ggml_metal_graph_compute: command buffer 1 failed with status 5
error: Internal Error (0000000e:Internal Error)
[GIN] 2025/04/25 - 11:16:44 | 200 | 45.188370666s | 127.0.0.1 | POST "/api/chat"
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Apr 25, 2025):
I think Michael was asking for the screenshot you are giving to ollama, the one showing a computer screen displaying the GlobalProtect website.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Apr 25, 2025):
This is not encouraging. Could I ask you to reformat the logs so that it's easier to read? Either that or attach to this post.
@krishna-winzo commented on GitHub (Apr 26, 2025):
@mchiang0610 this is the image I am using. Also it is not specific to this image, tried with others too. But got a random text.
@krishna-winzo commented on GitHub (Apr 26, 2025):
@rick-github Reformatted the above log
@dunklesToast commented on GitHub (May 16, 2025):
Having the same issues with gemma3:4b and gemma3:12b on a 16" MacBook Pro M2 Max 32GB:
Server Log
Used Image:
Chat:
This happened multiple times with the gemma model but resulted in different outputs. One time the model just printed
modelall over the terminal, one time it began withdinner dinner dinner dinner dinnerand then just[...](...).If you need more debugging info, let me know.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (May 18, 2025):
I think this is specific to MacOS. I had a bit of a search for the error message and while it shows up often enough, there's rarely a solution. You could try setting
OLLAMA_DEBUG=1in the server environment, the increased debugging may show a stack trace or something that might indicate what sort of problem it is, other than an "Internal Error".@dunklesToast commented on GitHub (May 18, 2025):
Here are the attached logs with debugging info included.
I've also tried multiple pictures (pngs and jpegs) and they all spit out random gibberish. LMK if you need additional information.
Debug Logs
EDIT: I've also updated my Mac to macOS 15.5 (24F74) but that did not help.
@dunklesToast commented on GitHub (Jun 2, 2025):
Seems like this is fixed with ollama 0.9.0 (running on macOS 15.5 (24F74))
Prompt Output
> ollama run gemma3:12b >>> /Users/tom/Desktop/band.png What do you see in this image? Added image '/Users/tom/Desktop/band.png' The image appears to be a close-up of a traditional Tibetan Buddhist mandala. Here's a breakdown of what I see: * **Intricate Design:** It's highly detailed with repetitive patterns and geometric shapes, characteristic of mandalas. * **Color Palette:** The colors are rich and vibrant, including reds, blues, greens, yellows, and whites, commonly used in Tibetan art. * **Central Figure:** There seems to be a central deity or figure within the mandala, surrounded by layers of symbolic representations. * **Symbolism:** The various elements likely represent various concepts related to Buddhist cosmology, teachings, and practices. It's a beautiful and complex work of art! >>> /Users/tom/Desktop/filter.png Please explain me this screenshot of the DAW Filter Added image '/Users/tom/Desktop/filter.png' Okay, let's break down what's displayed in this screenshot of a DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) filter. It's a complex view, so I'll explain the various components. This appears to be a visual representation of a digital filter within a DAW like Ableton Live, Logic Pro X, or similar software. **Overall Context:** The image shows a sophisticated visual representation of a digital audio filter. It's not just showing you the basic parameters like cutoff and resonance, but it's providing a real-time, interactive display of the filter's behavior. This is a powerful feature for sound design and creative manipulation. **Key Elements Explained:** 1. **Filter Type Selector (Top Left):** * You see a selector, likely a dropdown, labeled "Filter Type." This lets you choose the type of filter being applied. Common filter types include: * **Low Pass:** Allows frequencies below the cutoff to pass, attenuating higher frequencies. * **High Pass:** Allows frequencies above the cutoff to pass, attenuating lower frequencies. * **Band Pass:** Allows a narrow range of frequencies to pass, attenuating those outside the range. * **Notch (Band Reject):** Attenuates frequencies within a narrow range. 2. **Frequency Response Graph (Central/Main Display):** * This is the most critical element. It graphically represents how the filter affects different frequencies. * **X-axis (Horizontal):** Frequency, usually measured in Hertz (Hz). * **Y-axis (Vertical):** Gain or amplitude. A line close to 0 dB means the frequency passes through relatively unchanged. A line moving downward means the frequency is attenuated (reduced in volume). * **Response Curve:** The curved line shows how the filter alters the amplitude of each frequency. The shape of the curve directly reflects the filter's characteristics (e.g., steepness of the cut, resonance). * **"Sweep" Animation:** The dynamic movement of the response curve suggests a real-time manipulation or "sweep" of the filter's parameters. 3. **Filter Parameters (Right Side/Panel):** * **Cutoff Frequency:** Determines the point where frequencies start being attenuated. * **Resonance (Q Factor):** Controls the "peakedness" of the response curve at the cutoff frequency. Higher resonance creates a more prominent peak, leading to a more resonant, emphasized sound. * **Drive/Gain:** Adjusts the overall gain of the filter output. * **Slope/Order:** Sets the steepness of the filter's cutoff. Higher order filters have a steeper slope and a more aggressive cutoff. * **Envelope Amount:** Control how the filter responds to incoming signal amplitude. * **LFO amount:** control the filter modulation by low frequency oscillator. 4. **Interactive Features:** * **Cursor/Pointer:** You see a pointer, likely indicating a point on the frequency response graph. This lets you interactively adjust filter parameters by dragging the cursor. * **Graph Manipulation:** It's likely you can click and drag on the frequency response graph itself to shape the curve, which directly modifies the filter's behavior. **In Summary:** This screenshot depicts a sophisticated DAW filter visualization allowing users to not only adjust basic filter parameters (cutoff, resonance) but also to visually understand and interactively shape the filter's frequency response. The real-time graph animation, coupled with interactive controls, provides a very powerful environment for sound design and creative audio processing.@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jun 2, 2025):
Thanks for the update.