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[GH-ISSUE #4151] High RAM usage causes yo-yoing memory pressure on Mac, slow inference #64616
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Originally created by @joliss on GitHub (May 4, 2024).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/4151
Originally assigned to: @dhiltgen on GitHub.
What is the issue?
This is possibly related to the fix for #4028. I updated to the 0.1.33 release and pulled the latest
mixtral:8x22b-instruct-v0.1-q4_0(6a0910fa6dc1), so I'm running an 80 GB model on a 96 GB RAM machine. When I runit's now causing intermittent system freezes, where the entire screen just doesn't update for a second. (Update: The freezes are less frequent on 0.1.37, but still happen.) The inference is working fine now quality-wise, just running extremely slowly (0.27 tokens/s). This is despite it being an 80 GB model that fits comfortably into the 96 GB RAM on my machine.
Update: This also reproduces with other models that use most of my RAM, such as llama3:70b-instruct-q8_0 (74 GB), so it seems to be related to the high memory usage, rather than the specific model.
Curiously, I'm not sure what it's blocking/bottlenecking on during inference:
Ollama CPU usage is around 15% (of a single core).
Total GPU processor utilization is yo-yoing around 50% (like 30%-80%), unlike any other model that fits into memory where it will sit at 99%. "GPU memory" according to iStat Menus is similarly yo-yoing up and down. (I'm not sure what metric they're showing under "GPU memory" on a unified memory architecture.)
Note that this section shows the GPU specifically, despite the title.
Disk access only happens before inference starts while the model loads. So it's not like with the models that don't fit into memory, where it's just streaming 1GB/sec from disk the whole time during inference.
System memory pressure is yo-yoing between 28% and 83% during inference.
Let me know if there's anything I can run to help debug this!
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@igorschlum commented on GitHub (May 12, 2024):
Hi @joliss I have a Mac Station M1 with 192 GB of RAM and can launch the ollama run mixtral:8x22b-instruct-v0.1-q4_0 'Hi!' command without any trouble.
I'm using version 0.1.36 of Ollama. Can you test with this latest version?
@joliss commented on GitHub (May 15, 2024):
On 0.1.37, the intermittent system freezes seem to be much less frequent (though I can only test without an external display right now). However, the yo-yoing memory pressure is still happening:
The above is for a single run of
ollama run mixtral:8x22b-instruct-v0.1-q4_0 'Hi'-- it goes up and down during inference.It's notable that this stops happening if I close a few Chrome tabs. It's very strange though -- I would expect the 80 GB weights + the K/V cache (I assume) for a small message to leave plenty of left-over RAM on a 96 GB machine. Here is my machine when it's idle:
I'd also expect background apps to get forced out to swap as the memory pressure rises, but what seems to be happening instead is that Ollama (or Metal) temporarily "gives up" on keeping the model in memory, causing the drops in memory pressure.
I know it seems like this might just be an issue of "well it's not enough RAM for this model", but the memory pressure behavior is strange enough that I think it warrants investigating.
Here is the debug log from running
ollama run mixtral:8x22b-instruct-v0.1-q4_0 'Hi'. In particular, the following message might be relevant:Full log:
@dhiltgen commented on GitHub (Jul 25, 2024):
Are you still seeing this on the latest releases? I'm curious if you force a smaller number of layers with
num_gpuif that results in better behavior when splitting between GPU and CPU near the limit of system memory on MacOS.@igorschlum commented on GitHub (Jul 28, 2024):
MacOS use a max of 2/3 of the memory to GPU. 80GB LLM cannot be loaded in GPU on a 96GB Mac unless you change settings as explain here:
https://techobsessed.net/2023/12/increasing-ram-available-to-gpu-on-apple-silicon-macs-for-running-large-language-models/
@joliss commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2024):
It does seem to be mostly resolved in Ollama 0.3.6. I'll go ahead and close this.
@igorschlum Thanks for the tip, increasing the wired limit makes it run much smoother!