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Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/1730
Can ollama be converted to use MLX from Apple as backend for the models ?
@Josecodesalot commented on GitHub (Dec 31, 2023):
This Please!
@easp commented on GitHub (Jan 2, 2024):
What do you hope to gain from this? I don't think MLX is faster for inference, at least not yet.
@KernelBypass commented on GitHub (Jan 10, 2024):
Found these benchmarks:
https://medium.com/@andreask_75652/benchmarking-apples-mlx-vs-llama-cpp-bbbebdc18416
Seems like MLX is indeed slower than the llama.cpp masterpiece, at least for now. I did not verify though.
@Edu126 commented on GitHub (Jan 23, 2024):
This would be very nice!
and not only for text generation, Image/Multimodal would be boosted too.
@JimmyLv commented on GitHub (Apr 20, 2024):
someone made this https://github.com/kspviswa/PyOMlx
@magnusviri commented on GitHub (May 4, 2024):
Ollama is awesome and does so many things and some of us want to play with mlx models.
@angelo-cortez commented on GitHub (May 30, 2024):
bump
@mxyng commented on GitHub (May 30, 2024):
Commenting here to say we're aware of MLX. I've been working on a prototype but I can't give an ETA at for MLX support at this time
@qdrddr commented on GitHub (Jun 28, 2024):
Related to this Apple CoreML support to utilize Apple Neural Engine (ANE) alongside GPU & CPU:
https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/3898
@ibehnam commented on GitHub (Aug 20, 2024):
Any updates on this? MLX is now faster than Llama.cpp on Mac.
@garhbod commented on GitHub (Aug 21, 2024):
Any progress @mxyng? Is this a seperate project that other could contribute to?
@nicarq commented on GitHub (Aug 29, 2024):
it would be awesome. MLX is moving really fast and it would make sense that it would be the best tool long-term to run models on Apple's hardware.
@parthpat12 commented on GitHub (Sep 9, 2024):
Please add support for MLX! Any update @mxyng?
@ivanfioravanti commented on GitHub (Sep 15, 2024):
MLX support would be awesome!!!
@czzarr commented on GitHub (Sep 15, 2024):
indeed it would be!
@vietvudanh commented on GitHub (Oct 2, 2024):
MLX would support vision models too.
@Bigsy commented on GitHub (Oct 9, 2024):
Seems the new MLX backend in LMStudio is providing some real benefits especially in regards to memory consumption. Would be great to get support in Ollama.
@hg0428 commented on GitHub (Oct 10, 2024):
I have been testing the MLX backend in LM Studio, and I have found it to be on average 40% faster for inference than Ollama using the same exact settings with the same model at the same precision.
I am using M3 Max 36GB memory.
@robbiemu commented on GitHub (Oct 18, 2024):
I've seen numbers, admittedly a couple months ago, around 20% faster. Can you share a bit more - what models/context/settings? what iogpu.wired_limit_mb? etc
20% is still 20% more than Im doing currently :D
I'm not sure how good of an idea it is to have Ollama add a lot of features only available to some people .. but it does have some NVIDIA exclusive (or nvidia vs cpu only) stuff at least.
@CharafChnioune commented on GitHub (Oct 20, 2024):
So any plans to add mlx like lmstudio? Mlx supports multi model and is faster now. Llama.cpp is sort of death since the stoped vision
@twalderman commented on GitHub (Oct 23, 2024):
Given that there are less options with MLX for models but the ones that are available are good workhorses, it would be a huge benefit to have Ollama support mlx. As others have stated, LM studio supports MLX and the performance is great however Ollama still supports a wider range of templates and potentially upcoming support for more sampler options. Having one solution is ideal for Apple Silicon.
@ice6 commented on GitHub (Oct 30, 2024):
it is good to support this :) most important keep
ollamasteady and fast!@nercone-dev commented on GitHub (Oct 31, 2024):
On the MacBook Air (Apple M3 Normal), it is now faster.
For example, it was faster even when running 13B Codellama.
This is probably a technology that can be optimized for Apple silicon (especially M3 and later).
So it would be better to implement it.
https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/6aadc898-1c62-43c8-91d6-8c2308db603c
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@hg0428 commented on GitHub (Oct 31, 2024):
On my hardware, MLX runs an average of 40% faster than Llama.cpp (actual percentage varies from 38%-42%. 40% is the average over many tests).
@twalderman commented on GitHub (Oct 31, 2024):
What are people using for mlx local serving? What implementation is best and worth implementing in ollama?
@hg0428 commented on GitHub (Oct 31, 2024):
The developers of LM Studio have created a wrapper around MLX that makes it super simple. They used it to transition LM Studio from supporting only Llama.cpp as a backend to being able to support both Llama.cpp and MLX.
https://github.com/lmstudio-ai/mlx-engine
@ahmetkca commented on GitHub (Nov 9, 2024):
I hav just tried LM Studio's new MLX backend and you can see 11+ tokens per second improvement for same model. The model in question was qwen2.5:7b-instruct-q8_0 from 70~ tokens per second to 81~ tokens per second
@ahmetkca commented on GitHub (Nov 9, 2024):
https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/1730#issuecomment-2466166189
@ahmetkca commented on GitHub (Nov 9, 2024):
This is actually wrapper around MLX's mlx-lm python package. So perhaps, Ollama team can do better by completely bypassing python?
@logiota commented on GitHub (Nov 10, 2024):
llama3.2 is at least 64% faster with MLX on M4! Just got mine :)
@Idmon commented on GitHub (Nov 18, 2024):
Are we gonna see MLX support?
I think now with the new M4 Max chips it's a great time to support it.
@ljgeneral commented on GitHub (Nov 19, 2024):
Followed, looking forward to ollama support, I will try LM Studio first
@bhupesh-sf commented on GitHub (Nov 22, 2024):
Want to follow to see its support natively
@NashvilleBrandon commented on GitHub (Nov 27, 2024):
The people need this.
@bakaburg1 commented on GitHub (Dec 4, 2024):
Up!
@baoduy commented on GitHub (Dec 5, 2024):
1 more vote for this month be 👍👍👍
@elfriscia commented on GitHub (Dec 5, 2024):
Wish granted. One more 👍
This feature is native on Lm Studio and there’s a big difference.
@vietvudanh commented on GitHub (Dec 6, 2024):
Well, I ended up using MLX directly. Just wish they supports json output mode.
@smsmatt commented on GitHub (Dec 7, 2024):
Would appear to be a big win for Ollama to put this feature in.
@cryptedx commented on GitHub (Dec 8, 2024):
Well, this would be a big win for Ollama!
@hg0428 commented on GitHub (Dec 8, 2024):
Llama.cpp is exploring Apple Silicon ANE support, which not even MLX has. If implemented properly, that could make Llama.cpp significantly faster than MLX.
@ivanfioravanti commented on GitHub (Dec 8, 2024):
All models must be created adhoc for ANE. Moreover ANE is faster if you have few GPU cores otherwise noSent from the road.Il giorno 8 dic 2024, alle ore 19:44, Hudson Gouge @.***> ha scritto:
Llama.cpp is exploring Apple Silicon ANE support, which not even MLX has. If implemented properly, that could make Llama.cpp significantly faster than MLX.
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@hg0428 commented on GitHub (Dec 8, 2024):
The ANE is like the GPU, but specialized for AI. The model files themselves need not be changed. You can run anything on it just like the GPU, thanks the new API that Apple released. Previously, you had to use CoreML; now, you can access it directly. The ANE alone can get performance roughly equivalent to the M4 Max GPU, which is quite good. Combined with GPU, it can result in a significant performance boost.
@elfriscia commented on GitHub (Dec 8, 2024):
The troll downvoting is frustrated for not being able to have a MacBook and will reply anything to contradict this statement.
@vietvudanh commented on GitHub (Dec 9, 2024):
Well, soon I guess: Ollama's post
@iamhenry commented on GitHub (Dec 9, 2024):
@integrate-your-mind commented on GitHub (Dec 11, 2024):
If this happens by Monday I will be so happy.
@rheinardkorf commented on GitHub (Dec 17, 2024):
It did not happen Monday. 😅
@loganyc1 commented on GitHub (Dec 18, 2024):
Did this ship?
@MS00-GitIt commented on GitHub (Dec 18, 2024):
Reading all this has been fun. I can't wait to see this issue a marked as "Closed".
@zhaopengme commented on GitHub (Dec 28, 2024):
Waiting.⏳(๑˃̵ᴗ˂̵)
@dalisoft commented on GitHub (Dec 30, 2024):
Better if Closed as completed not as Closed as not planned 😄
@Swich1987 commented on GitHub (Jan 4, 2025):
Looking forward for that support 🤞
@jeffhaskin commented on GitHub (Jan 16, 2025):
Update 1 year later:
Model: Llama 3.1 8b Instruct Q4
Platform: LM Studio
On the M1 Air, even Phi4-14b is getting usable speeds (7.06 tok/sec MLX vs 5 tok/sec GGUF), which puts it just into the usability range for me.
On the M2 Pro 32G, I'm getting similar speeds with Qwen2.5 32B (mlx), which is great.
@iamhenry commented on GitHub (Jan 16, 2025):
monday is coming up 😅
@schneipk commented on GitHub (Jan 22, 2025):
I'm so stoked ! OllaMLXa <3
@Unicorndy commented on GitHub (Jan 24, 2025):
Is it happening soon? 🤞
@Byte1122 commented on GitHub (Jan 31, 2025):
I am using LM Studio and Ollama. The MLX models on LM Studio are way faster. I hope I can switch entirely to Ollama, but with LM Studio. Anyway, love to support this. If Ollama need donations or what so ever, love to donate!
@bhupesh-sf commented on GitHub (Feb 1, 2025):
here we go https://github.com/ollama/ollama/pull/8490
@TheurgicDuke771 commented on GitHub (Feb 14, 2025):
I see the PR https://github.com/ollama/ollama/pull/8490 is now closed. Can we expect this in next stable release?
@kconner commented on GitHub (Feb 18, 2025):
#8490 was superseded by #9118, which seems worth watching for progress.
@neolee commented on GitHub (Feb 22, 2025):
So do we have any plan and/or schedule for MLX support?
@HadiCherkaoui commented on GitHub (Feb 23, 2025):
Has it arrived?
@robwilkes commented on GitHub (Feb 26, 2025):
Models converted to MLX format are ~20% faster than the same models in GGUF format on my M4 MacBook Pro
@Caojunisstudying commented on GitHub (Mar 14, 2025):
However, when I use the MLX model, my Macmini takes up much more memory, so I have to abandon MLX, because if cpu performance is good enough,I would rather spend memory on building models with higher precision , I don’t know how Ollama will be running the mlx model in the future,hope better results.
@robwilkes commented on GitHub (Mar 14, 2025):
Are you sure you're comparing the same quantization, context size, etc, like for like?
The memory usage is the same for me, maybe even a tiny bit better as Mac can manage the memory slightly better with MLX, however it's mostly negligible / identical.
The filesizes are roughly equivalent and therefore the memory utilisation is roughly equivalent.
@Caojunisstudying commented on GitHub (Mar 14, 2025):
like qwq-32b Q4 on ollama vs qwq-32b 4bit on LMs, my macmini has just 24G memory which of very high load in such scenario, the result is that ollama run hard but finish the answer, the LMs lead my mac to crash and have to restart. I can use ollama and docker, ragflow normally, but crash with LMs because of ram out again on 14b models.
so I think ollama in running on cpu and ram of 24G, but when mlx model use gpu to accelerate, part of the ram must be allocated to gpu, so the ram gets not enought。
@arty-hlr commented on GitHub (Mar 14, 2025):
MLX does not need to preallocate memory for the context size, so you should be able to run models with their full context size with better memory utilisation. @Caojunisstudying the whole 24G are not available to you/to the GPU, only 2/3 of those by default. Did you change the limit with
sudo sysctl iogpu.wired_limit_mb=XXXXX?@Caojunisstudying commented on GitHub (Mar 14, 2025):
that may be the key, My LMs keep using the default settings, I will change it and try again, Thanks a lot for your suggestion.
@anurmatov commented on GitHub (Mar 16, 2025):
this gpu mem limit parameter is a game changer, although it's worth keeping in mind that it's a runtime thing and resets on restarts. i've created a script that automatically sets the desired value even after restarts, might be helpful especially for headless setups
@easp commented on GitHub (Mar 16, 2025):
man sysctl.conf@zengqingfu1442 commented on GitHub (Mar 23, 2025):
Add mlx-vlm backend also.
@matthieuHenocque commented on GitHub (May 9, 2025):
Lack of MLX support is the only reason I don't use Ollama. In some cases MLX Q8 is 20% faster than GGUF, and memory usage is better handled.
So please, add MLX support to Ollama
@vdbwim commented on GitHub (Jun 3, 2025):
Is there a target date to get MLX supported?
@sxy-trans-n commented on GitHub (Jun 4, 2025):
https://github.com/Trans-N-ai/swama
High-performance MLX-based LLM inference engine for macOS with native Swift implementation
@FelikZ commented on GitHub (Jun 23, 2025):
It's a next level fast indeed. Tried yesterday with Qwen3 30B, mind blowing. Would be nice if it get support for Mistral models too.
benchmarks are crazy:
@openSourcerer9000 commented on GitHub (Jul 19, 2025):
Seems ollamas mac userbase is withering away along with this PR
Draft MLX go backend for new engine by dhiltgen · Pull Request #9118 · ollama/ollama https://share.google/snsqjHmkYOqBecvLf
@zhaopengme commented on GitHub (Aug 4, 2025):
hi.Have there been any recent developments?
@HKiOnline commented on GitHub (Aug 5, 2025):
I'm using LM Studio at the moment as it has a MLX backend. The performance differences are very clear. I would love to use Ollama instead.
@BradKML commented on GitHub (Aug 15, 2025):
@HKiOnline got anything similar that is FOSS AND MLX-compatible?
@CharafChnioune commented on GitHub (Aug 15, 2025):
GTA 6 or mlx support? Bets are on
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@mkozjak commented on GitHub (Aug 15, 2025):
mlx-omni-server, as some say, might be the best option for us.
@curious-boy-007 commented on GitHub (Sep 14, 2025):
@ageorgios @mkozjak @Josecodesalot
You might want to take a look at this MLX + GGUF compatible CLI tool:
@mkozjak commented on GitHub (Sep 14, 2025):
Doesn't work at all in combination with Zed for me.
@curious-boy-007 commented on GitHub (Sep 14, 2025):
@mkozjak Please try this version for macOS installer
https://github.com/NexaAI/nexa-sdk?tab=readme-ov-file#macos
Also woud you please let me know the error log for Zed editor? In macOS build-in terminal, should work.
@ericcurtin commented on GitHub (Oct 13, 2025):
In Docker Model Runner we've put effort into putting all our code in one central place to make it easier for people to contribute. Please star, fork and contribute (especially please contribute an mlx backend):
https://github.com/docker/model-runner
We have vulkan support. You can pull models from Docker Hub, Huggingface or any other OCI registry. You can also push models to Docker Hub or any other OCI registry.
@Globolo001 commented on GitHub (Dec 20, 2025):
Any updates on this feature?
Very surprised it takes THIS long as LMStudio been having it for a while now (but I guess thats just the curse of OpenSource)
@jeffhaskin commented on GitHub (Jan 17, 2026):
Haven't touched ollama in more than a year because it doesn't support mlx. use to be the core of my system.
mlx is significantly faster on my M2 macbook than gguyf.
Our love was sweet, but it is ended. Farewell, sweet Juliette.
@TomLucidor commented on GitHub (Jan 19, 2026):
My current choice, they seemed to be moving very fast https://github.com/cubist38/mlx-openai-server
(as for something more conventional, Ramalama or Jan seemed good as a FOSS universal adapter compared to LMStudio?)
@Globolo001 commented on GitHub (Jan 19, 2026):
Awwwww maaaannnn.
I feel like in theory Claude Opus should just be able look at the mlx docs. Check the open source LMStudio MLX adapter
for reference and implement it in an afternoon.
Is it because just because a lack of trying, a promising work in progress, just proofing to be way harder than I naively think.
Or has an architectural roadblock been hit that effectively does not allow OLLAMA to use anything other than llama cpp
I could find two active branches. But no info what they actually try to achieve. Apart from the MLX in the branch name. (Also why don’t branches have a feature description attribute in git. So annoying just trying to figure out the intention from branch and commit names)
https://github.com/ollama/ollama/tree/mlx-gpu-cd
https://github.com/ollama/ollama/tree/mxyng/next-mlx
Also the main readme seems to allow for a custom build with mlx.
Building with MLX (experimental)
However not sure wether this is also for pulling mlx models. Or only building models using mlx.
But only did very shallow digging. If there is a better discussion I'd love to get some insights :)
@Jingyuan-Zheng commented on GitHub (Mar 4, 2026):
Is it currently supported to run MLX models in Ollama? I haven't found a configuration method or an option to enable it.
@qdrddr commented on GitHub (Mar 4, 2026):
I think it's supported now. But I can't find documentationon how to use it.
https://github.com/ollama/ollama/pull/13648
@jackbravo commented on GitHub (Mar 4, 2026):
And seems it is just for some usecases:
@Byte1122 commented on GitHub (Mar 4, 2026):
Yes it is supported, guys just use ai to discover it. Not long ago this was added, also you need to enable it in the confit or modelfile
33ee7168ba@huyz commented on GitHub (Mar 5, 2026):
Is MLX support still experimental and does it require special compilation?
I'm looking for out-of-the-box support