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[GH-ISSUE #8961] After ollama upgrade, severe performance drop with deepseek, seems GPU not available #5814
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Originally created by @liyuheng55555 on GitHub (Feb 9, 2025).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/8961
What is the issue?
After upgrading from Ollama 0.3.14 (pre-installed in the server provider’s system image) to 0.5.7 using the official curl installation command, Deepseek’s loading and execution speed significantly dropped.
Observations:
• Performance Issue: Deepseek was running much slower after the upgrade.
• CPU & Memory Usage:
topshowed high CPU and memory usage during inference.• GPU Usage:
nvidia-smidisplayed no GPU memory usage, butollama psstill reported “100% GPU.”• Inference Concern: It seems that Deepseek might be falling back to CPU inference despite showing GPU utilization in ollama ps.
Additional Information:
• The issue persisted until I reverted the system by reinstalling the original system image.
• Attached are screenshots from top, nvidia-smi, and ollama ps during Deepseek’s execution.
Relevant log output
OS
Linux
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Ollama version
0.5.7
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 9, 2025):
seems a
fresh0.5.7 needs the new gpu build instructions.https://github.com/ollama/ollama/releases/tag/v0.5.8-rc12
https://github.com/ollama/ollama/blob/main/docs/development.md
good luck.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Feb 9, 2025):
Server logs may aid in debugging.
@billye commented on GitHub (Feb 10, 2025):
I have the same problem. Has it been solved?
@billye commented on GitHub (Feb 10, 2025):
@rick-github Server logs are here:
ollama_serve.txt
@liyuheng55555 commented on GitHub (Feb 10, 2025):
@YonTracks Thanks for the solution. I think I’ll stick with the old version of ollama for now.
@rick-github Unfortunately, the logs were not preserved.
@billye Looks like your video memory is being used normally
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 10, 2025):
cheers.
The actual problem I was having is, the gpu files installed here
"...\AppData\Local\Programs\Ollama\lib\ollama\"were missing the cuda_v11 and or cuda_v12 and or rocm. ollama shows no errors, everything in the logs seem good, andollama psshows 100% gpu, but slow as (even slower than when using cpu only), No gpu being used!If CMake build config does not find the gpu, or is not set for the gpu, then no gpu files will be created (env settings and cuda toolkit problems also will prevent this).
After sorting the gpu cuda env issues (the reason I had issues, is I installed cuda toolkit 12.8 and CMake from the dev instructions fresh...) now with correct
Path, the CMake builds successfully, they are in thebuild/lib/ollama(for development)and when using from the dev folder, it works great,
./ollama serveorgo run. serveit works great.now heres the issue:
I used to build via the ollama.iss script with
powershell -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -File .\scripts\build_windows.ps1and this would create a OllamaSetup.exe that would install the gpu files correctly.now when running
powershell -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -File .\scripts\build_windows.ps1, it compiles very quick, but does not install the gpu files, and will remove any current files breaking the installed ollama.if manually copying the gpu files from
build/lib/ollamato"...\AppData\Local\Programs\Ollama\lib\ollama\", it works again.or, modified .iss.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Feb 10, 2025):
@billye
Your GPU is being used.
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 10, 2025):
heres a not working server.log.
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 10, 2025):
far out, I still have not learned how to post logs, sorry about that.
txt file, from now on.
edit^:
same with llama3.1 the ollama ps:
slow as, gpu is not being used (I think it only adds the overhead), and the speed is slower than with cpu only and the model size is larger.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Feb 10, 2025):
The GPU usage shown by
ollama psis calculated before the runner is started. ollama is expecting a GPU enabled runner based on the GPUs detected. A GPU enabled runner is not found so ollama falls back to use CPU. The GPU usage is not updated.This should be exactly the same as running CPU only. If the speed is different, that indicates something else is broken. You would need to provide some logs to allow debugging. A simple check is to run the ollama client in GPU/non-GPU modes:
Baseline (want to start GPU but GPU runner may not be available):
Switch to CPU:
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 10, 2025):
cheers, I will try get the data, also the speed of the initial model load also is affected, pretty sure with windows, speed difference between
./ollama servedev mode, andollama serveinstalled mode.I will try and get definitive data.
edit^:
not working gpu.
not working gpu / cpu only mode.
gpu working correct. disabled with
CUDA_VISIBLE_DEVICES-1cpu only:
gpu working correct:
gpu working / cpu only via params:
edit^: huge update. I also tried to compare
./ollama servevsollama serveandgo run . servequiting ollama first, even if not and found orphanedollamain the task manager process. nothing should be running? so I try start ollama with the icon, now I have 2xollama, if I run the same prompt now?both
Ollamaandollama.exe.i will see if ollama will clear it somehow, before restarting pc, or ending the task.
restarting ollama, and the server, did not auto clear, only
ollama.execlears, not exact sure how to reproduce, I will test more and find out. epic! cheers.edit^: server started server.log running in the console, and while already running, server.log in editor shows
Error: listen tcp 127.0.0.1:11434: bind: Only one usage of each socket address (protocol/network address/port) is normally permitted.but ollama is running in the console. and
Ollamais orphaned.normally, I think lol, this automatically sorts itself, with that error shown, (it is now not allowing the server if already running, hard to reproduce the orphans).
most likely related to previous issue also, when the gpu is not working correct, I'll test that also.
edit: for memory note to self< ToDo running ollama ps with nothing running
no ollama runningand ollama ps started the server, but a little differently.good luck cheers
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 10, 2025):
I must say again, if I haven't enough, current testing is for compiled
0.5.7... latest, via CMakecmake -B build cmake --build build(configured via vscode or VS 2022workflow) using VS 2022 native tools, or vscode Cmake extension (very very slow) orpowershell -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -File .\scripts\build_windows.ps1(but the powershell script builds the OllamaSetup.exe also, without the gpu files, but quick full compile).with this type of build style,
./ollama serve|go run . serve| and./ollama startall work great, server.log streaming in the console.with this type of build style, the installed app via the compiled OllamaSetup.exe, when running the app icon, is what triggers the gpu issues.
if using any of the
official OllamaSetup.exeeverything works great if the env details are correct, else similar issues to the faulty compiled OllamaSetup.exe (for me cuda 12.6 and 12.8 clashing and toolkit/s, I should use only 1?)if I add the following to the ollama.iss, then the compiled no longer faulty OllamaSetup.exe will extract the gpu files like the
officialedit^: I'm seeing
continuevsclicausing different similar issues also depending on how ollama is used, mostly continue issues./ollamaor something.good luck, cheers
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Feb 10, 2025):
If you edit posts, people subscribed to the thread will not be notified of your additions.
The difference in the CPU tests may be down to the different CPU runners. The absolute fallback when ollama fails to find a runner will be a very generic runner, compiled with little optimization to allow it to run anywhere. Allowing ollama to choose the CPU runner by disabling the GPU lets it pick one of the runners with AVX optimisations.
@arkerwu commented on GitHub (Feb 12, 2025):
Using the official installation package may encounter this issue, while the self-compiled version can properly utilize the GPU.
8908
@Osirising commented on GitHub (Feb 12, 2025):
那怎么解决这个问题呢?我部署的deepseek-r1:70b速度太慢了,一条命令要60s。回退ollama版本?还是怎么办?
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Feb 12, 2025):
Server logs may aid in debugging.
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
not sure if hinder, or help? but for me the changes I made to make it work with the latest 0.5.8+ (cuda and toolkit 12.8 and 12.6 for the latest).
with these changes the old, 0.5.7, before the repo changes, now does not build correct unless I delete 12.8 and revert the path settings. But, reverting breaks the latest...
so. for me. cuda! and Path env variables, fixes it.
for the latest 0.5.8+ I have CUDA_PATH and CUDA_PATH_V12_6 and CUDA_PATH_V12_8
old 0.5.7, this does not work, I need to remove the 12.8.
but compiling only, else official install OllamaSetup.exe is good
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
just to be clear also, srry.
CUDA_PATHandCUDA_PATH_V12_6andCUDA_PATH_V12_8separate! toPath.and in the Path there are a few.
C:\Program Files\NVIDIA GPU Computing Toolkit\CUDA\v12.8\binC:\Program Files\NVIDIA GPU Computing Toolkit\CUDA\v12.8\libnvvpand
C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Nsight Compute 2025.1.0\I think is gone when reverted.
and
C:\Program Files\NVIDIA GPU Computing Toolkit\CUDA\v12.6\binI did not even really ever touch, a windows env before
ollama. epic!I will try get more definitive data, might take a while.
good luck
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
compiles 0.5.9 with
powershell -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -File .\scripts\build_windows.ps1. awesome!compiled very, very quick, only built with the required files and nothing more,
for me
cmake -B buildandcmake --build buildis very slow.but
powershell -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -File .\scripts\build_windows.ps1very quick loading, all seems very good. thank you! ollama. Keep up the great work. love it
time=2025-02-13T11:57:24.388+10:00 level=DEBUG source=server.go:262 msg="compatible gpu libraries" compatible=[]only using the ml backend.
0.5.9-yontracks.txt
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
hold up... srry, I forgot about the .iss
I modified it?
with the original iss? not working...
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
modifications:
time=2025-02-13T12:11:42.690+10:00 level=DEBUG source=server.go:262 msg="compatible gpu libraries" compatible=[]0.5.9-original.txt
but the ml backend is not working.
edit^: Just to be clear!
ollama pssays 100% gpu lol... slower than with cpu only!!! <<<@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
I will test, with only cuda 12_8 and vice versa. this will take a while.
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
very good info!!! I'm only a mechanic lol
cuda 12.6. I uninstalled 12.8 completely.
so only 12.6. and env has only
CUDA_PATH_V12_6and Path has only:
check the log.
now 0.5.7 before the changes will compile and run great.
0.5.9 will compile with powershell, but now even with the .iss build mod, it does not work.
I know, but can't explain it... lol
0.5.9-original-12.6.txt
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
I also see ollama fetching both user env variables and the system variables.
edit^: I know is being skipped, but this is user variables and not sytem.
scary, now, I try uninstall 12.6? and only run 12.8.
good luck
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
pulled the latest changes, and with
0.5.9-build-mod.txt
12.6 only with the build mod, it does still work.
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
12.8 only: with
CUDA_PATH_V12_8only and thepathhas:C:\Program Files\NVIDIA GPU Computing Toolkit\CUDA\v12.8\binC:\Program Files\NVIDIA GPU Computing Toolkit\CUDA\v12.8\libnvvpC:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Nsight Compute 2025.1.0\0.5.9-original-12.8only-compiled.txt
not working...
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
12.8 only with the .iss build mod
working.
0.5.9-original12.8-buildmod-compiled.txt
now I try the official OllamaSetup.exe with the
hugelol wizard size. lol .I see the official OllamaSetup.exe extracting the gpu files for all, as usual.
0.5.9-official-huge-wizard-size-lol.txt
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
12.8 only, and on an older repo 0.5.7 before the changes, and now I can't build it???
but I am working on that repo 0.5.7..
so what I do/ folks will be in same boat??? what I do is reinstall 12.6???
but best I think, is to integrate the updated changes to run 12.8.
good luck.
@foloumi commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
Same issue here. It's not just Deepseek, but any model above 20GB in size. I have had the same happen with Qwen2.5-Coder:32b and Phind-CodeLlama:34b. Seems like there is some VRAM mismanagement happening that makes Ollama think there isn't enough VRAM and falls back to CPU inference. Same models run fine on an older version of Ollama. Main question is, which version has introduced the issue.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
Server logs may aid in debugging.
@foloumi commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
Attached.
Ollama_Service_Logs.txt
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
12.4, interesting, should they try 12.8? is there a 12.8 for them? what version?
good luck
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
This looks normal.
Two cards with 23.4G and 23.2G available respectively. Ollama allocates 22.9 and 22.8G and offloads 24 layers. Large context size results in large KV cache of 31G.
CUDA enabled runner is started, 12 layers per card.
llama.cpp loads model into both GPUs.
From the model loading point of view, everything looks OK. How are you quantifying a performance drop?
@foloumi commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
Great point about the context window! Let me adjust that first before testing again. But previously the performance drop is quite obvious based on both resource manager showing only CPU utilization and also a very slow token generation rate. I'll post again after testing with a smaller context window
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
is that like 2min? to complete, is that good for that size.
@foloumi commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
based on previous experience on a similar system, the CPU only inference speed is just not practical at all! It's going at 1 token per second with 32 cores and 128GB of RAM, so it's a no go for actual usage.
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
yep, so it is, or isn't doing that? running very slow like cpu only?
or is it just not as good as before, but still ok.
@foloumi commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
No, it's certainly only doing CPU inference, not GPU.
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
yes, you will see the issue is the gpu files and or runners? ollama/lib? transfer the files manually?
good luck
@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
srry dyslexia lol
..\build\lib\ollamaand lib/ollama lol@YonTracks commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
and if still issues, but works if using older 0.5.6. than you need cuda 12.8
good luck
@foloumi commented on GitHub (Feb 13, 2025):
My issue seems to have been related to the large context window that was being passed to Ollama... reducing it keeps the inference on the GPU. Thanks to @rick-github for pointing this out. Was even able to do an inference for a 70B Deepseek via model splitting
I'm running