[GH-ISSUE #12139] unworking old Vision models #54581

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opened 2026-04-29 06:25:35 -05:00 by GiteaMirror · 9 comments
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Originally created by @openzeka-birol-kuyumcu on GitHub (Sep 1, 2025).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/12139

What is the issue?

Some older Vision models, especially minicpm-v, do not work properly with Ollama—they don’t return errors, but either don’t see the image at all or produce hallucinations
I am using Ollama with Docker, version 0.1.1.8. It used to work normally in older versions.

curl http://localhost:11434/api/generate -d '{
  "model": "minicpm-v:latest",
  "prompt":"What is in this picture?",
  "images": ["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}'"stream": falseLDfSakXmH3w8g9Jlug8ZtTt4kVF0kLUYYmCCtD/DrQ5YhMGbA9L3ucdjh0y8kOHW5gU/VEEmJTcL4Pz/f7mgoAbYkAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC"],

{"model":"minicpm-v:latest","created_at":"2025-09-01T07:12:40.448825958Z","response":"I'm sorry, but I can't provide a description for the image you've described. It would be helpful if you could describe what's happening or show me an actual photo to better assist you with your question. Please let me know any details about the content of the picture that might help in understanding and answering it accurately!","done":true,"done_reason":"stop","context":[151644,872,198,58,1892,12,15,2533,3838,374,304,419,6802,30,151645,198,151644,77091,198,40,2776,14589,11,714,358,646,944,3410,264,4008,369,279,2168,498,3003,7481,13,1084,1035,387,10950,421,498,1410,7512,1128,594,12482,476,1473,752,458,5042,6548,311,2664,7789,498,448,697,3405,13,5209,1077,752,1414,894,3565,911,279,2213,315,279,6802,429,2578,1492,304,8660,323,35764,432,29257,0],"total_duration":603571719,"load_duration":53118608,"prompt_eval_count":16,"prompt_eval_duration":3221928,"eval_count":66,"eval_duration":546752300}

{"model":"minicpm-v:latest","created_at":"2025-09-01T07:17:14.437241889Z","response":"The image appears to be a simple, abstract symbol or icon. It shows what looks like an upward-pointing arrow with a circle around the top part of it. This could potentially represent various concepts such as success, progress, achievement, direction, focus, guidance, and more depending on context.\n\nIf you have any specific questions about this image or need further clarification, please let me know!","done":true,"done_reason":"stop","context":[151644,872,198,58,1892,12,15,2533,3838,374,304,419,6802,30,151645,198,151644,77091,198,785,2168,7952,311,387,264,4285,11,8115,7735,476,4603,13,1084,4933,1128,5868,1075,458,39772,16574,287,17921,448,264,12671,2163,279,1909,949,315,432,13,1096,1410,13581,4009,5257,18940,1741,438,2393,11,5098,11,25426,11,5106,11,5244,11,18821,11,323,803,11649,389,2266,382,2679,498,614,894,3151,4755,911,419,2168,476,1184,4623,63684,11,4486,1077,752,1414,0],"total_duration":759396922,"load_duration":57131075,"prompt_eval_count":16,"prompt_eval_duration":13413140,"eval_count":79,"eval_duration":688214555}

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Originally created by @openzeka-birol-kuyumcu on GitHub (Sep 1, 2025). Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/12139 ### What is the issue? Some older Vision models, especially minicpm-v, do not work properly with Ollama—they don’t return errors, but either don’t see the image at all or produce hallucinations I am using Ollama with Docker, version 0.1.1.8. It used to work normally in older versions. ``` curl http://localhost:11434/api/generate -d '{ "model": "minicpm-v:latest", "prompt":"What is in this picture?", "images": ["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}'"stream": falseLDfSakXmH3w8g9Jlug8ZtTt4kVF0kLUYYmCCtD/DrQ5YhMGbA9L3ucdjh0y8kOHW5gU/VEEmJTcL4Pz/f7mgoAbYkAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC"], ``` {"model":"minicpm-v:latest","created_at":"2025-09-01T07:12:40.448825958Z","response":"I'm sorry, but I can't provide a description for the image you've described. It would be helpful if you could describe what's happening or show me an actual photo to better assist you with your question. Please let me know any details about the content of the picture that might help in understanding and answering it accurately!","done":true,"done_reason":"stop","context":[151644,872,198,58,1892,12,15,2533,3838,374,304,419,6802,30,151645,198,151644,77091,198,40,2776,14589,11,714,358,646,944,3410,264,4008,369,279,2168,498,3003,7481,13,1084,1035,387,10950,421,498,1410,7512,1128,594,12482,476,1473,752,458,5042,6548,311,2664,7789,498,448,697,3405,13,5209,1077,752,1414,894,3565,911,279,2213,315,279,6802,429,2578,1492,304,8660,323,35764,432,29257,0],"total_duration":603571719,"load_duration":53118608,"prompt_eval_count":16,"prompt_eval_duration":3221928,"eval_count":66,"eval_duration":546752300} {"model":"minicpm-v:latest","created_at":"2025-09-01T07:17:14.437241889Z","response":"The image appears to be a simple, abstract symbol or icon. It shows what looks like an upward-pointing arrow with a circle around the top part of it. This could potentially represent various concepts such as success, progress, achievement, direction, focus, guidance, and more depending on context.\n\nIf you have any specific questions about this image or need further clarification, please let me know!","done":true,"done_reason":"stop","context":[151644,872,198,58,1892,12,15,2533,3838,374,304,419,6802,30,151645,198,151644,77091,198,785,2168,7952,311,387,264,4285,11,8115,7735,476,4603,13,1084,4933,1128,5868,1075,458,39772,16574,287,17921,448,264,12671,2163,279,1909,949,315,432,13,1096,1410,13581,4009,5257,18940,1741,438,2393,11,5098,11,25426,11,5106,11,5244,11,18821,11,323,803,11649,389,2266,382,2679,498,614,894,3151,4755,911,419,2168,476,1184,4623,63684,11,4486,1077,752,1414,0],"total_duration":759396922,"load_duration":57131075,"prompt_eval_count":16,"prompt_eval_duration":13413140,"eval_count":79,"eval_duration":688214555} ### Relevant log output ```shell ``` ### OS _No response_ ### GPU _No response_ ### CPU _No response_ ### Ollama version _No response_
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@openzeka-birol-kuyumcu commented on GitHub (Sep 1, 2025):

for ollama 0.11.3 it works

{"model":"minicpm-v:latest","created_at":"2025-09-01T07:27:02.022356104Z","response":"The image depicts a cartoon of an alpaca character. The drawing style suggests it might be from a comic or casual art context rather than being directly related to the "Dinosaur Duck" series, which typically features dinosaurs as its central theme. This particular illustration does not contain any explicit elements that would suggest direct involvement with the Dinosaur Duck franchise but is instead part of general cartoon imagery.\n\nIf you're looking for information on how this image relates to the "Dinosaur Duck" comic or where it might fit within a larger collection, I'd recommend referring directly to those specific comics. The artwork in question appears unrelated based on visual analysis alone and does not provide sufficient context to link it definitively with any known series or media content.\n\nIf you have more questions about this image or others like it, feel free to ask!","done":true,"done_reason":"stop","context":[151644,872,198,58,1892,12,15,2533,3838,374,304,419,6802,30,151645,198,151644,77091,198,785,2168,61891,264,30349,315,458,452,79,17106,3668,13,576,13330,1707,13230,432,2578,387,504,264,19724,476,16334,1947,2266,4751,1091,1660,5961,5435,311,279,330,35,88147,45770,1,4013,11,892,11136,4419,64275,438,1181,8622,6912,13,1096,3953,39034,1558,537,6644,894,11464,5424,429,1035,4190,2118,21587,448,279,422,88147,45770,19024,714,374,4518,949,315,4586,30349,40445,382,2679,498,2299,3330,369,1995,389,1246,419,2168,35616,311,279,330,35,88147,45770,1,19724,476,1380,432,2578,4946,2878,264,8131,4426,11,358,4172,6934,22023,5961,311,1846,3151,28059,13,576,28309,304,3405,7952,45205,3118,389,9124,6358,7484,323,1558,537,3410,14016,2266,311,2656,432,30288,3132,448,894,3881,4013,476,3687,2213,382,2679,498,614,803,4755,911,419,2168,476,3800,1075,432,11,2666,1910,311,2548,0],"total_duration":1883697599,"load_duration":30397472,"prompt_eval_count":79,"prompt_eval_duration":310397282,"eval_count":166,"eval_duration":1541808165}

<!-- gh-comment-id:3241180557 --> @openzeka-birol-kuyumcu commented on GitHub (Sep 1, 2025): for ollama 0.11.3 it works {"model":"minicpm-v:latest","created_at":"2025-09-01T07:27:02.022356104Z","response":"The image depicts a cartoon of an alpaca character. The drawing style suggests it might be from a comic or casual art context rather than being directly related to the \"Dinosaur Duck\" series, which typically features dinosaurs as its central theme. This particular illustration does not contain any explicit elements that would suggest direct involvement with the Dinosaur Duck franchise but is instead part of general cartoon imagery.\n\nIf you're looking for information on how this image relates to the \"Dinosaur Duck\" comic or where it might fit within a larger collection, I'd recommend referring directly to those specific comics. The artwork in question appears unrelated based on visual analysis alone and does not provide sufficient context to link it definitively with any known series or media content.\n\nIf you have more questions about this image or others like it, feel free to ask!","done":true,"done_reason":"stop","context":[151644,872,198,58,1892,12,15,2533,3838,374,304,419,6802,30,151645,198,151644,77091,198,785,2168,61891,264,30349,315,458,452,79,17106,3668,13,576,13330,1707,13230,432,2578,387,504,264,19724,476,16334,1947,2266,4751,1091,1660,5961,5435,311,279,330,35,88147,45770,1,4013,11,892,11136,4419,64275,438,1181,8622,6912,13,1096,3953,39034,1558,537,6644,894,11464,5424,429,1035,4190,2118,21587,448,279,422,88147,45770,19024,714,374,4518,949,315,4586,30349,40445,382,2679,498,2299,3330,369,1995,389,1246,419,2168,35616,311,279,330,35,88147,45770,1,19724,476,1380,432,2578,4946,2878,264,8131,4426,11,358,4172,6934,22023,5961,311,1846,3151,28059,13,576,28309,304,3405,7952,45205,3118,389,9124,6358,7484,323,1558,537,3410,14016,2266,311,2656,432,30288,3132,448,894,3881,4013,476,3687,2213,382,2679,498,614,803,4755,911,419,2168,476,3800,1075,432,11,2666,1910,311,2548,0],"total_duration":1883697599,"load_duration":30397472,"prompt_eval_count":79,"prompt_eval_duration":310397282,"eval_count":166,"eval_duration":1541808165}
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@andyceo commented on GitHub (Sep 1, 2025):

yeah, it seems related:

<!-- gh-comment-id:3241600868 --> @andyceo commented on GitHub (Sep 1, 2025): yeah, it seems related: - https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/12091 - https://github.com/unslothai/unsloth/issues/3218
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@rick-github commented on GitHub (Sep 1, 2025):

The vendor sync at 1a19df1f3a broke the vision processing for minicpm-v and legacy format models like imported mistral-small3.2.

<!-- gh-comment-id:3241729624 --> @rick-github commented on GitHub (Sep 1, 2025): The vendor sync at https://github.com/ollama/ollama/commit/1a19df1f3a39481dfe686c8f1041f91531a04ada broke the vision processing for minicpm-v and legacy format models like imported mistral-small3.2.
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@andyceo commented on GitHub (Sep 1, 2025):

@rick-github Is that mean that broken vision issue lay in llama.cpp? Did not find any open vision-related issues in llama.cpp now

<!-- gh-comment-id:3242096112 --> @andyceo commented on GitHub (Sep 1, 2025): @rick-github Is that mean that broken vision issue lay in llama.cpp? Did not find any open vision-related issues in llama.cpp now
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@rick-github commented on GitHub (Sep 1, 2025):

I've only got as far as bisecting the changes to locate where the issue started. Other models with a separate clip projector work fine (eg llava) so it's not clear where the problem is yet.

<!-- gh-comment-id:3242475994 --> @rick-github commented on GitHub (Sep 1, 2025): I've only got as far as bisecting the changes to locate where the issue started. Other models with a separate clip projector work fine (eg llava) so it's not clear where the problem is yet.
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@iosub commented on GitHub (Sep 1, 2025):

I've only got as far as bisecting the changes to locate where the issue started. Other models with a separate clip projector work fine (eg llava) so it's not clear when the problem is yet.

I think it was after this commit
df335aac09

<!-- gh-comment-id:3242997370 --> @iosub commented on GitHub (Sep 1, 2025): > I've only got as far as bisecting the changes to locate where the issue started. Other models with a separate clip projector work fine (eg llava) so it's not clear when the problem is yet. I think it was after this commit https://github.com/ollama/ollama/commit/df335aac09cd921beab12891cb40957e7c2ef9b7
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@rick-github commented on GitHub (Sep 1, 2025):

It's not, df335aa only affects models with architecture gpt-oss. None of the affected models are gpt-oss.

<!-- gh-comment-id:3243003261 --> @rick-github commented on GitHub (Sep 1, 2025): It's not, [df335aa](https://github.com/ollama/ollama/commit/df335aac09cd921beab12891cb40957e7c2ef9b7) only affects models with architecture gpt-oss. None of the affected models are gpt-oss.
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@rick-github commented on GitHub (Sep 13, 2025):

https://github.com/ollama/ollama/pull/12168 has been merged which fixes the problem with minicpm-v not seeing images, should be available in 0.11.11.

<!-- gh-comment-id:3287213555 --> @rick-github commented on GitHub (Sep 13, 2025): https://github.com/ollama/ollama/pull/12168 has been merged which fixes the problem with minicpm-v not seeing images, should be available in 0.11.11.
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@openzeka-birol-kuyumcu commented on GitHub (Sep 16, 2025):

I used the 0.11.11 version, and now it seems to be working. However, sometimes model don’t see the second image, and sometimes the models behave as if the second image is two separate images, but there’s no consistency.

<!-- gh-comment-id:3297426685 --> @openzeka-birol-kuyumcu commented on GitHub (Sep 16, 2025): I used the 0.11.11 version, and now it seems to be working. However, sometimes model don’t see the second image, and sometimes the models behave as if the second image is two separate images, but there’s no consistency.
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Reference: github-starred/ollama#54581