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[GH-ISSUE #9252] Performance downgrade on 2-way AMD EPYC 9654 after updating to Ollama 0.5.11 #52541
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Originally created by @PC-DOS on GitHub (Feb 20, 2025).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/9252
Originally assigned to: @mxyng on GitHub.
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Greetings,
Recently I adopted Ollama 0.5.7 to deploy DeepSeek-R1 (671b and 70b) on my personal server. Due to limited GPU resource, the 671b version mainly run on my CPU. However, after updating to Ollama 0.5.11, I found that the inference performance downgrades severely (about 40%, dropped to about 1.5 tok/s from 2.5 tok/s).
Here is a simple benchmark. Using model
SIGJNF/deepseek-r1-671b-1.58bit:latestpulled from Ollama repository. I created a copy of this model, named it asdeepseek-r1:671b-q1.58-gpulimitedand setnum_gputo18in order to fit my hardware environment. I ran the model withollama run deepseek-r1:671b-q1.58-gpulimited --verboseand tested the performance in 3 different Ollama installations, using the same prompt "介绍一下自己吧" (which means "Please introduce yourself" in English). The testing process was sequential, no reboot or shutdown was executed during the process.In Ollama 0.5.11, upgraded from Ollama 0.5.7:
In Ollama 0.5.11, installed after uninstalling Ollama 0.5.11:
In Ollama 0.5.7, installed after uninstalling Ollama 0.5.11:
Also, in Ollama 0.5.7, the inference process only utilizes about 80% of CPU. However, in Ollama 0.5.11, the inference process utilizes 100% of my CPU.
OS Version
Windows Server 2022 Datacenter, Build
20348.2700CPU
2x AMD EPYC 9654 (AVX512 enabled)
GPU
2x NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 24GB (NVLink not connected)
Driver version 561.09
CUDA Toolkit version 12.6
RAM
16x 32GB DDR5 RECC 4800MHz
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Windows
GPU
AMD, Nvidia
CPU
AMD
Ollama version
0.5.7 / 0.5.11
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Feb 20, 2025):
Server logs with
OLLAMA_DEBUG=1may aid in debugging. At a guess, I'd say that ollama is not loading/finding the appropriate backend and is falling back to using a vanilla CPU build.@PC-DOS commented on GitHub (Feb 20, 2025):
Sorry for forgetting the log file.
From Ollama 0.5.7, bootstrapping only:
From Ollama 0.5.11, bootstrapping only:
Full log including a model loading sequence:
server-full-0.5.7.0.log
server-full-0.5.11.0.log
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Feb 20, 2025):
These logs don't show any problems.
They allocated exactly the same resources on the GPUs:
And the generation takes the same amount of time (+/- 100ms):
@PC-DOS commented on GitHub (Feb 20, 2025):
Thanks for replying and debugging. In these 2 logs I just loaded a model using
ollama run deepseek-r1:671b-q1.58-gpulimitedcommand for a quick testing (after the model was loaded, I invoked/byeand quitted), no actual prompt was inputted.Here are 2 logs with a same prompt "
j请为我详细介绍一下您自己" (the "j" character is a typo caused by IME). Invoked by command:In Ollama 0.5.11, the response was:
In Ollama 0.5.7, due to a short response to the previous prompt, I tried more prompts:
Full server logs:
server-full-prompt-0.5.7.0.log
server-full-prompt-0.5.11.0.log
Log of console callings:
server-full-prompt-0.5.7.0 - Console.log
server-full-prompt-0.5.11.0 - Console.log
@mrdg-sys commented on GitHub (Feb 20, 2025):
#9087
same issue here
my dual xeon lost performance with 0.5.9 and 0.5.11versions
also if one cpu is disabled and I test performance with only one cpu there is performance loss upgrading from 0.5.7 so its not related to only dual cpu systems
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Feb 20, 2025):
ollama is loading the icelake CPU backend, which was launched three years before the EPYC 9654, so I suspect that the scoring mechanism used to choose the CPU backend may not be discovering all of the features of the EPYC. You can try renaming all of the gglm-cpu DLLs in
C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Local\Programs\Ollama\lib\ollamato xxx.old except for gglm-cpu-alderlake.dll and see if performance improves when the runner loads a model. It might just crash, I don't know what features alderlake has that are not supported on EPYC. This seems like a build issue.sandybridge: 2011
haswell: 2013
skylake: 2015
icelake: 2019
alderlake: 2021
EPYC 9654: 2022
@mxyng commented on GitHub (Feb 20, 2025):
@mrdg-sys that's a different problem which is mitigated by disabling amx. amx is a negative performance impact on sapphire rapids. this issue is related to icelake and amd epyc
@mrdg-sys commented on GitHub (Feb 20, 2025):
in my case with xeon 6126 cpu ollama is loading correct backend:
load_backend: loaded CPU backend from C:\Users\user\AppData\Local\Programs\Ollama\lib\ollama\ggml-cpu-skylakex.dll
yet inference performance loss
@mrdg-sys commented on GitHub (Feb 20, 2025):
my cpu is skylake (xeon 6126) it has nothing to do with saphire rapids
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Feb 20, 2025):
Actually, that won't work because alderlake scores 0 on the feature scale and llama.cpp will fall back to the basic CPU build. Maybe try each DLL in turn.
@mxyng commented on GitHub (Feb 20, 2025):
You're right my mistake
@ice6 commented on GitHub (Feb 25, 2025):
@PC-DOS I wonder how do you find
SIGJNF/deepseek-r1-671b-1.58bit:latest?I see it, just search
deepseek-r1will find it. thank you.