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[GH-ISSUE #8690] Deepseek-671B: Error: timed out waiting for llama runner to start - progress 0.00 on 8x L40S #52143
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Originally created by @orlyandico on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/8690
What is the issue?
Ollama (0.5.7) appears to be correctly calculating how many layers to offload to the GPU with default settings. This is on a g6e.48xlarge which has 1.5TB of RAM.
However, I never see the GPU VRAM usage climbing (this normally happens on my 2 x P40 setup as the model loads into VRAM)
it is stuck at this:
and at the very end I get this error:
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@orlyandico commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
Also: I tried Nemotron and it correctly loaded (entirely) into a single GPU and did inference properly.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
OLLAMA_LOAD_TIMEOUT=30m@orlyandico commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
Timed out after 30 minutes. Increased env variable to 90 minutes. Still crunching after 40 minutes. VRAM footprint still stuck at 400-odd MB.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
Is the model on local or network storage? Does
iostat 5orvmstat 5show blocks being read?@orlyandico commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
The model is sitting on a 16000 IOPS GP3 volume. It pulled and and installed properly "ollama run deepseek-r1:671b"
Given that the smaller Nemotron model ran properly, it appears the stack works fine.
@orlyandico commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
strace from the ollama PID
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
biis non-zero so stuff is happening. The strace is on the server, the runner (ollama_llama_server) is the one doing the work of loading the model in to the GPUs.@orlyandico commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
qwen-110b runs fine.. 10GB on each of the GPUs.
@orlyandico commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
I did the strace on the PID that shows up in nvidia-smi (this is a different run as I interrupted the deepseek run to test qwen-110b)
Strace on the above PID also shows the futex and epoll_pwait
I don't see any other runners.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
Yep, you are right, I saw the HTTP in the strace and just jumped to thinking it was the server, forgetting that the server polls the runner for health checks.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
What's
sudo ls -l /proc/4813/fdshow?@orlyandico commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
@orlyandico commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
The key issue is that smaller models like Nemotron (70B) and Qwen (110B) work fine and as expected...
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
Sure. And the runner has the devices and the file open, and blocks are being read, so it's doing stuff. But it's only doing 1250 KiB/s in block reads, so that's ((8 * 43) * 1024 * 1024) / 1250 or 288568 seconds of reading, or 80 hours to read the model off storage.
@orlyandico commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
That is odd, because the 62GB blob for qwen:110b loads fairly quickly (sub 5 minutes)...
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
I don't know anything about GP3 volumes, is 16000 IOPS a peak or fully provisioned metric? Have you used up the quota for whatever the billing chunk is? It it's not being throttled by the service provider, then something is causing the runner to go-slow. I can't think off the top of my head anything in the code that would cause that.
@orlyandico commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
Interesting development.. I zapped the entire model and re-downloaded it. Now I am getting the error from https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/8597
I modified the startup config
But continue to get the error.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
@orlyandico commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
Got it working. It appears to run at 4-5 tokens/second, and GPU utilisation is very low (changed num_ctx to 12288, so KV cache was about 5GB on each GPU).
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
LLMs are layers, each layer needs to be computed before the next, so the average utilisation per completion will be 1/gpu_devices = 12.5% in your case.
@orlyandico commented on GitHub (Jan 30, 2025):
GPU utilisation was much less than 12.5% - because some of the layers are on the CPU.. CPU load was off the charts (top could not even display it properly) due to having 192 threads / 96 cores on the VM.
Added these to the Modelfile:
PARAMETER num_gpu 44
PARAMETER num_ctx 12288
GPU VRAM utilisation was about 40GB per GPU including the KV cache. I guess it could be squeezed a bit more to get more layers onto the GPU.
@gallery2016 commented on GitHub (Feb 6, 2025):
@orlyandico Hello, I am in a similar situation as you and am experiencing:
The total GPU memory is 48*8G=384G, if use OLLAMA to run the Q4 model of 671B, and there is not enough GPU memory, then set GGML_CUDA_ENABLE_UNIFIED_MEMORY=1, it will utilize the server's memory, and everything will be fine at startup.
However, after a period of conversation, I found that the memory of the server keeps decreasing until it runs out, and the last conversation is very laggy.
Have you encountered a similar situation? Thank you !
@orlyandico commented on GitHub (Feb 6, 2025):
I gave up on using the L40S. Having layers on the CPU slowed things down so
much that running on pure CPU wasn’t much slower (4 tok/second).
On Thu, 6 Feb 2025 at 07:17, Li Tian @.***> wrote:
@gallery2016 commented on GitHub (Feb 6, 2025):
@orlyandico Thank you for the advice.