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Originally created by @frenzybiscuit on GitHub (Dec 5, 2024).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/7956
What is the issue?
I am on the 0.5.0 release (which links to 0.4.8-rc0) and using Qwen 2.5 32b Q5 with 32k context and flash attention with q8_0 KV cache.
I have a 3090 and 2080ti.
Ollama is putting 22GB on the 3090 and 5.3GB on the 2080ti.
When running a prompt the 3090 is at 80%-90% GPU usage while the 2080ti is only at 10%.
When using llama.cpp directly with split row, the VRAM on the 2080ti is mostly maxed and the GPU usage on both GPU is in the 50%-65% range.
My question: Why is the 3090 doing most of the work on Ollama?
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@rick-github commented on GitHub (Dec 5, 2024):
Ollama has probably done the tensor split sub-optimally. Server logs will aid in debugging. What are the parameters you use when you run llama.cpp directly?
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Dec 5, 2024):
What's the token generation rate for both configurations?
@frenzybiscuit commented on GitHub (Dec 5, 2024):
I will try getting some benchmarks and statistics for both setups when I have the free time.
Llamacpp is faster though.
@frenzybiscuit commented on GitHub (Dec 5, 2024):
And yes you’re probably right. Iirc the tensor split on llamacpp is 2.3,1.
I will post the commandline when I’m back home tonight.
@frenzybiscuit commented on GitHub (Dec 5, 2024):
Okay, irregardless of that. When using a Q6 GGUF it crashes on Ollama but works on llamacpp. I am not sure if it is using quant K,V cache after all.
Llamacpp command (which works):
GGML_CUDA_NO_PINNED=1 ./temp/build/bin/llama-server -m models/qwen2.5-32b-instruct-q6_k.gguf -c 32768 -ngl 500 -ts 2.3,1 -sm row -mg 0 -fa -ctv q8_0 -ctk q8_0 --threads 16 --host 192.168.0.2 --port 8080 --api-key-file apikeys.txt --log-file server.log --log-timestamps --log-colors --log-prefixOllama is launched via systemd with the following:
Ollama error:
@frenzybiscuit commented on GitHub (Dec 5, 2024):
Nope it is using quant k,v cache as q4 works. It's just putting too much memory onto the first GPU and not enough onto the second.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Dec 6, 2024):
Logs from earlier in the run will show ollama calculations.
@frenzybiscuit commented on GitHub (Dec 6, 2024):
@frenzybiscuit commented on GitHub (Dec 6, 2024):
Is there a way to tell Ollama how to split the tensors per model? That may be the better idea.
@frenzybiscuit commented on GitHub (Dec 10, 2024):
Yeah, it's pretty bad at this. See attached screenshot.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Dec 10, 2024):
Do you have the logs for this allocation? The logs you posted earlier were from two different runs and it's difficult to piece together the flow.
@frenzybiscuit commented on GitHub (Dec 10, 2024):
I will get logs and attach later tonight when I have free time.
I think it's important to note that every time the model restarts after its unloaded that there is different vram allocations.
Sometimes it allocates it decently (around 8GB on the 2080ti) but other times the above happens.
This is with the same model and config.
@frenzybiscuit commented on GitHub (Dec 10, 2024):
I need to clean the logs of my domain name, but the tensor split on a 32b model is 26,6 which seems bad for a dual gpu setup.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Dec 10, 2024):
More interesting is what ollama thought the state of the GPU was before it tried to allocate layers. The distribution algorithm tries to equalize across GPUs, but doesn't account for the relative performance of the GPUs or the size of the VRAM. If it's allocating 26 layers to one GPU it means that ollama thinks there wasn't enough space on the other to evenly distribute layers.
@frenzybiscuit commented on GitHub (Dec 10, 2024):
This could be the issue. When loading a model (any model) it ping-pongs back and forth between both GPU loading and unloading from VRAM. It will eventually (usually 3-4 seconds of this) load and stay loaded into VRAM.
I can take a screen recording of this behavior if needed.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Dec 11, 2024):
If the model is loading and unloading from VRAM it will be recorded in the logs. But this behaviour isn't normal, a screen recording may shed light.
@frenzybiscuit commented on GitHub (Dec 11, 2024):
Alright, here you go. I don't particularly care if the domain is out there.
I am not able to repeat the prior results, but the tensor split is still 26,6 and the vram on the 2080ti is still lower then it should be.
https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/a46e0679-fc82-4d9c-8295-5bd28d03bff8
@frenzybiscuit commented on GitHub (Dec 11, 2024):
Also increasing context length to use the free vram on the 2080ti doesn't work. The model doesn't load and errors out.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Dec 11, 2024):
Can you add the logs for this period?
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Dec 11, 2024):
Ollama switched from qwen2 to command-r. It's expected that the VRAM will go down when the model is unloaded and then go up again when a new model is loaded.
@frenzybiscuit commented on GitHub (Dec 11, 2024):
Yeah, but it does the same thing when not switching models. I can post another screen capture of it without one loaded if you need it.
@frenzybiscuit commented on GitHub (Dec 11, 2024):
Interestingly, it works fine on the 72b models. The vram is split correctly on those models. (I.E. 20GB on the 3090 and 10GB on the 2080ti)
Seems to be an issue with the lower parameter models specifically?
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Dec 11, 2024):
If you could post logs of these events that would be great.
@frenzybiscuit commented on GitHub (Dec 11, 2024):
What's the best way to debug Ollama when installed as a systemd service?
Anyway, I know these aren't the logs you wanted but this is Ollama compared to Llamacpp.
The actual speed is similar (Ollama actually appears faster) however, llamacpp is able to run a Q6 qwen 2.5 32b while Ollama is only able to run a Q5. Also, llamacpp has a higher context (by about 20k). So if there is speed difference, I suspect that is why.
Llamacpp:
Ollama:
@frenzybiscuit commented on GitHub (Dec 14, 2024):
Can I get clarification on how ollama handles multi-gpu setups?
Is it splitting by row?
If so, is it splitting the tensors with 2,1 or with 2.5,1? In llamacpp I am splitting by 2.5.