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[GH-ISSUE #7188] Bad juju creating a model (the llama.cpp generated file starts with "GGUF") #4568
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Originally created by @robbiemu on GitHub (Oct 13, 2024).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/7188
What is the issue?
I have the 2b base model of Salamandra quantized to different weights, but I am getting an error creating it.
I hesitate to even use the chat template because it is a base model, not a chat model, so its chat looks kinda erratic.
but its text generation looks good (aligned with what you expect from a base model). this is a log of a full run in case the details are pertinent to the above magic
but perhaps when I wrote it, I did something wrong in my model file?
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@robbiemu commented on GitHub (Oct 13, 2024):
this is the log of how it was made:
@robbiemu commented on GitHub (Oct 13, 2024):
The problem can be seen here:
The problem is that Ollama's ggml.go file is specifically checking for two different magic numbers:
0x67676a74 ("ggjt" in ASCII)
0x67676d6c ("ggml" in ASCII)
the file starts with "GGUF", which is neither of these expected magic numbers.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Oct 13, 2024):
ollama doesn't properly handle models with BF16 tensor types, submitted https://github.com/ollama/ollama/pull/7193 to address that.
Your Modelfile also needs to be adjusted to match your test with llama-cli. With the orignal TEMPLATE, the model usually responds in English:
The response is not quite the same as your llama-cli test, there are some parameters (
tfs_z,mirostat_lr, etc) that may be affecting that.@robbiemu commented on GitHub (Oct 13, 2024):
thank you! Can't wait.
My tests had --temp 0.1 so probably that is the variation :)
@pdevine commented on GitHub (Oct 15, 2024):
@robbiemu The
GGJTandGGMLfile formats haven't really been used for a while and I doubt either would work at this point. You can only import from Safetensors and GGUF right now. The magic # for gguf is 0x46554747 ("fugg").I think you should be able to make this work with just changing the way you're running
convert_hf_to_gguf.py. Change the--outtype bf16to--outtype fp16.@robbiemu commented on GitHub (Oct 15, 2024):
@pdevine yes? wondering where those are read from then (the error message is only in the repo from the code where I got those values). thank you for merging the PR :)
I didn't want to make that change because it makes it not a copy (so, even if in only the tiniest ways, lossy), and this is after all a gguf still.
can I just clone the repo now that the pr is merged and make my models early, or is it more complicated and I should wait for the next update?
@pdevine commented on GitHub (Oct 15, 2024):
@robbiemu I went ahead and built the 2b-instruct model. You can try it out with
ollama run pdevine/salamandra:2b. I just built it from the safetensors weights on hf. The template was a bit of a pain but seems to work if you want to see it here.The steps to get this to work:
tokenizer.jsonto something liketokenizer.json-old(it's getting picked up, but the protobuf tokenizer works fine)FROM .in it, and add theTEMPLATEfor the instruct modelsollama create salamandra:2bI think you've probably seen it, but there are more instructions here.
@robbiemu commented on GitHub (Oct 15, 2024):
where did that template come from?? :)
-- btw I just finished the imatrix-based quants for the 2b-instruct too :) they are on huggingface
I have a question about that tokenizer, they haven't answered yet. The base model's tokenizer is twice the size of the one for the instruct fine tune
@pdevine commented on GitHub (Oct 15, 2024):
I just wrote the template myself. You can find the original template in
tokenizer-config.json.@robbiemu commented on GitHub (Oct 15, 2024):
I hadn't seen it because so far I've only looked at building the template for Ollama with the base model :) they didn't add the chat template since the base model has no chat training.
I can skip uploading the base models to Ollama if you think we're better served with just the instruct models
when is the next release? I want to use these models but need that pr to do the same with my imatrix-based quantizations:
@robbiemu commented on GitHub (Oct 15, 2024):
@pdevine one last question. On review of this conversation, this part of your reply still stood out to me:
I am wanting to verify the basis of this choice. It is because this puts less memory demands on its use? Not because you faced any issues with the provided tokenizer, right? Would you recommend for any other reason that I use the protobuf one?
@pdevine commented on GitHub (Oct 15, 2024):
So there are two tokenizer files in there:
tokenizer.jsonandtokenizer.model. For some reason there is a bug reading through thetokenizer.jsonwith the merges. I just used thetokenizer.modelfile instead which is a protobuf version of essentially the same thing.This is specifically when you're converting from safetensors, not trying to pull in a GGUF based file. The GGUF file has the tokenizer data already.