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Originally created by @acastry on GitHub (Sep 26, 2024).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/6980
What is the issue?
Hi,
Tools support doens't work as expected i Guess. When activated it gets the right function to be called, but at the same time it doesn't return anymore normal response for any other phrases than tool support example.
I am copying last documentation example for tools support.
Returns
{"model":"llama3.2","created_at":"2024-09-26T13:56:50.934137Z","message":{"role":"assistant","content":"","tool_calls":[{"function":{"name":"get_current_weather","arguments":{"format":"celsius","location":"Paris"}}}]},"done_reason":"stop","done":true,"total_duration":1596672250,"load_duration":40646209,"prompt_eval_count":213,"prompt_eval_duration":1052689000,"eval_count":25,"eval_duration":500100000}Let me just change the question:
I cannot have normal response and it hallucinates :
{"model":"llama3.2","created_at":"2024-09-26T14:12:22.749298Z","message":{"role":"assistant","content":"","tool_calls":[{"function":{"name":"get_current_weather","arguments":{"format":"pi","location":""}}}]},"done_reason":"stop","done":true,"total_duration":5842347542,"load_duration":4899628417,"prompt_eval_count":212,"prompt_eval_duration":480869000,"eval_count":23,"eval_duration":456247000}What if i deactivate tools ?
It works :
{"model":"llama3.2","created_at":"2024-09-26T14:16:03.899228Z","message":{"role":"assistant","content":"Pi (π) is an irrational number, which means it cannot be expressed as a finite decimal or fraction. The value of pi is approximately equal to 3.14159, but it goes on forever without repeating in a predictable pattern.\n\nIn fact, the first few digits of pi are:\n\n3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679\n\n...and so on!\n\nPi is a fundamental constant in mathematics and appears in many areas of geometry, trigonometry, calculus, and more. Its value is used to describe the circumference and area of circles, as well as other curved shapes.\n\nIf you need a more precise value, there are online calculators and mathematical libraries that can provide an infinite number of digits of pi!"},"done_reason":"stop","done":true,"total_duration":5318857625,"load_duration":41988708,"prompt_eval_count":32,"prompt_eval_duration":1744657000,"eval_count":173,"eval_duration":3530631000}### Also tested with LLAMA3.1 and not working
{"model":"llama3.1","created_at":"2024-09-26T16:50:52.16426Z","message":{"role":"assistant","content":"","tool_calls":[{"function":{"name":"get_current_weather","arguments":{"format":"celsius","location":"San Francisco, CA"}}}]},"done_reason":"stop","done":true,"total_duration":7556086500,"load_duration":40462833,"prompt_eval_count":214,"prompt_eval_duration":5782271000,"eval_count":48,"eval_duration":1731411000}OS
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@rick-github commented on GitHub (Sep 26, 2024):
https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/6127
@pannous commented on GitHub (Sep 27, 2024):
I'm glad this ticket is still open because https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/6127 is closed and thus harder to find.
@hassanallaham commented on GitHub (Nov 8, 2024):
I think the real problem is that Ollama trying to differentiate the models which support tool calling from other models. For example, if you created a model like llama3.2 from a gguf file downloaded from Hugging Face and you used a modelfile with a template that is not like what is in the template on the Ollama website the result will be: if you added any tool to the client it will tell you that the model does not support tool call. Ollama searches for something in the template in modelfile to classify it as a model which supports tool calling. This relation with the fact that the default template used by tool-calling models downloaded from the Ollama website forces the model to (always) call a function unless it receives the result of a function call (i.e. this template forces the model to always use tool-calling unless it received a message where the role is "tool". Either they need to update the template used to make the model decide when to use and when not to use tool calling (this may open a door for hallucination), Or (which is the best solution) they should remove this mechanism of classifying the model as a tools model based on that template in modelfile content. I believe that differentiation or classification of the models using the template in modelfile is a very bad idea since tool calling is a very important part of agentic workflows and since there are many models which can be used for this target even the system prompt is not written the way do Ollama needs to allow tool calling
@hassanallaham commented on GitHub (Nov 8, 2024):
Here is the default system prompt used by Ollama for llama3.2:
Cutting Knowledge Date: December 2023. When you receive a tool call response, use the output to format an answer to the original user question.
You are a helpful assistant with tool calling capabilities.
Given the following functions, please respond with a JSON for a function call with its proper arguments that best answers the given prompt.
Respond in the format {"name": function name, "parameters": dictionary of argument name and its value}. Do not use variables.
{"type":"function", "function":{
"name":"get_weather","description":"return the weather at a given location.
"parameters":{
"type":"object",
"required":["location"],
"properties":{
"location":{"type":"string","description":"The city name you want its weather."},
"temperature_unit":{"type":"string","description":"The temperature unit this can be "C" or "F""}}}}}
Now we can see that the directions forces the model to always call a function. And it can respond normally only in one case which is only when receiving the result of called tool. (That's why Openai has a parameters "tool_choice" to inject the possibilities of tool calling, for example: auto, none, or name of exact tool with The default behavior (tool_choice: "auto") is for the model to decide on its own whether to call a function and if so which function to call. )
@edmcman commented on GitHub (Nov 8, 2024):
Yes, I also believe the template is very poor:
If the model follows the directions, it must return a tool call.
In contrast, consider the prompt from llama3-groq-tool-use which does not have this problem:
Who creates the Ollama templates? Are they from the Ollama developers, or from the model developers?
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Nov 8, 2024):
They are adapted from the chat_template created by the model developers.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Nov 8, 2024):
If you don't want the model to return a tool call, don't give it tools. If you give it tools, it's because you want the model to use a tool. #6127 discusses this. If you don't want to use the tool support in the ollama API, craft a system message as described here.
@edmcman commented on GitHub (Nov 8, 2024):
@rick-github https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/black-or-white
People want the tool_choice = "auto" behavior.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Nov 8, 2024):
As described in #6127.
@edmcman commented on GitHub (Nov 8, 2024):
Also, here is the "official" prompt template for Llama 3.2: https://www.llama.com/docs/model-cards-and-prompt-formats/llama3_2#-prompt-template-
This is not the same as the Ollama prompt.
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Nov 8, 2024):
This is the official prompt as built in to the HF model:
No
auto. If you want to adjust the template to meet your needs, please do so. As described in #6127.@edmcman commented on GitHub (Nov 8, 2024):
I don't really know the huggingface chat models well enough to know under which circumstances that is used. Aside: I found this template which is clearly a fairly heavily modified version of that template.
Anyway, I made an Ollama llama 3.2 3b model that uses the prompt format from this llama documentation.
It works much better. IMHO, the default Ollama llama 3.2 model should use something like this. Having a chat model that replies to "Hello" with a tool call is silly for most use cases (again, IMHO).
Anyway, props to Ollama team for allowing people to easily fork models and change the templates.
@edmcman commented on GitHub (Nov 13, 2024):
A lot of relevant discussion on this thread:
https://github.com/meta-llama/llama-stack-apps/issues/36#issuecomment-2292193997
The HF prompts are probably not the authoritative source.
@lionel319 commented on GitHub (Feb 7, 2025):
I noticed that as well.
I switched to Qwen2, and it works pretty well.