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[GH-ISSUE #6600] In ollama, do these llama3.1 models refer to the pretrained basic models or instruction tuned models? #4157

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opened 2026-04-12 15:04:43 -05:00 by GiteaMirror · 2 comments
GiteaMirror commented 2026-04-12 15:04:43 -05:00
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Originally created by @icecream-and-tea on GitHub (Sep 3, 2024).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/6600

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the model id is llama3.1:8b that it seems to refer to the pretrained basic model, but in the ollama model library, the performance of llama3.1:8b is consistent with the finetuned model

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Originally created by @icecream-and-tea on GitHub (Sep 3, 2024). Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/6600 ### What is the issue? the model id is llama3.1:8b that it seems to refer to the pretrained basic model, but in the ollama model library, the performance of llama3.1:8b is consistent with the finetuned model llama3.1 huggingface performance ![image](https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/35485fce-b185-4286-b827-6dd6ac1a6c7d) the ollama library introduction of llama3.1 ![image](https://github.com/user-attachments/assets/e614e393-7d9f-49e7-9174-b7d9b09d45cc) ### OS _No response_ ### GPU _No response_ ### CPU _No response_ ### Ollama version _No response_
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@rick-github commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2024):

The short form model name in ollama usually refers to the instruction tuned model. The base model normally has the word text or base in the tag, eg llama3.1:8b-instruct-q4_0 vs llama3.1:8b-text-q4_0

<!-- gh-comment-id:2327239018 --> @rick-github commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2024): The short form model name in ollama usually refers to the instruction tuned model. The base model normally has the word `text` or `base` in the tag, eg [llama3.1:8b-instruct-q4_0](https://ollama.com/library/llama3.1:8b-instruct-q4_0) vs [llama3.1:8b-text-q4_0](https://ollama.com/library/llama3.1:8b-text-q4_0)
GiteaMirror commented 2026-04-12 15:04:46 -05:00
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@mxyng commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2024):

as @rick-github mentioned, pretrained models generally contain text or base in the tag name

<!-- gh-comment-id:2327609214 --> @mxyng commented on GitHub (Sep 3, 2024): as @rick-github mentioned, pretrained models generally contain `text` or `base` in the tag name
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