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Originally created by @Goekdeniz-Guelmez on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/6257
What is the issue?
So I just pulled the new Llama3.1 model and I get wrong outputs:
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macOS
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Apple
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Ollama version
0.3.4
Update!
Repull
ollama pull llama3.1.Basically the way the tensors were encoded was causing memory to be over-allocated.
@Goekdeniz-Guelmez commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
Removing and repulling didn't fix it either:
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
There are other reports that llama3.1 on a Mac is broken (#6249, #6246). Have you tried a different quantization? Can you try an older version of ollama? Can you post server logs?
@Goekdeniz-Guelmez commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
I tried it on
llama3-groq-tool-usetoo and the same problem, but when loading custom llama3.1 models like theneural-daredevilorllama3.1-abliteratedthey work as intended. when tryingollama run llama3.1:8b-instruct-q4_K_Mandq2this also works as intended. This just started to not work today, when pulling the latest llama shards.@rick-github commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
llama3-groq-tool-use hasn't been updated for a couple of weeks, so if it was working earlier and not now, it would rule out a model change as the cause. Can you try with ollama v0.3.3 or earlier?
@Goekdeniz-Guelmez commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
here are the logs first with
ollama run llama3.1and withollama run llama3.1:8b-instruct-q4_K_MIt looks like the llama3.1 model (4.9 GB) is not beeng loaded because of not enough RAM but when loading the other one (also 4.9 GB) it load it into the RAM.
@Goekdeniz-Guelmez commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
The same issue with v0.3.3.
Is it possible that some layers are not loaded?
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
According to the logs, all layers are offloaded. I'm not sure how memory is shared between the system and the GPU on the mac, but what happens when you limit the layer offloading:
@Goekdeniz-Guelmez commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
It worked at first, but when closing and reopening ollama and running the same line still doesn't work.
@Goekdeniz-Guelmez commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
Using the very same model but with
ollama run llama3.1:8b-instruct-q4_K_Mworks perfectly fine, it just doesn't work using it withollama run llama3.1@Goekdeniz-Guelmez commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
I also tried inference with the downloaded gguf model from hf, the template is just copied from yours and this also works perfectly fine. That's the model I downloaded:
ggml-model-Q4_K_M.gguffromhttps://huggingface.co/chatpdflocal/llama3.1-8b-gguf@rick-github commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
Yeah, it seems the Q4_0 quant doesn't work well on Macs. I have no problems with it on a linux machine with an Nvidia RTX4070.
@Goekdeniz-Guelmez commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
That's interesting, should I open a issue on llama.cpp, since this is a quant problem?
@MaxJa4 commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
Just tried it with
llama3.1andllama3.1:8b-instruct-q8_0on my MacBook (M3 Pro), both worked fine... tried it with flash attention on and off, both worked flawlessly.Must be specific to M1 chips then I guess?
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
@MaxJa4 What version of ollama are you using, and how much (V)RAM do you have?
I don't think it's solely a quant problem, because then I would expect to see other platforms with problems. So far, the reports are just affecting a subset of Mac users. So it would be good if we could find what similarity the affected machines have and exclude reasons based on success reports like MaxJa4.
@MaxJa4 commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
Ollama v0.3.4, "vram" is reported by Ollama with 12.0 GB (Metal)
Update: Added logs.
Debug Logs
PR which seems to aim to address your issue: #6260
@Goekdeniz-Guelmez commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
Loading the same model from a gguf file
ollama create ...that also works fine too, wich is weird. Ill look into the PR.Edit:
The PR does make sense, I'll close this when the PR has worked.
Thank you!!!!!
@rick-github commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
#6246 resolved their problem by moving to a machine with more RAM, so it's just a resource problem. https://github.com/ollama/ollama/pull/6260 should resolve it.
@Goekdeniz-Guelmez commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
I thought that at first too, but I can run the very same model on my Mac too just not the
llama3.1tag name, can that still be a memory issue?@rick-github commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
It could be. If the RAM required to load the mode, the KV space and the graph is close to the limit of available RAM, then the slightly different calculations that ollama does may make the difference between the model loading, the model loading but returning bad results, or the model failing to load.
@Goekdeniz-Guelmez commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
Ahh ok, it’s a valid point. So the RAM requirements for loading the model, KV space, and computational graph are teetering on the edge of the available memory. Is it the operations like
repeat_kv? So like reshaping and expanding tensors in the attention mechanism, these probably are quite memory-intensive.@jmorganca commented on GitHub (Aug 8, 2024):
Hi folks, this should be fixed now. You'll need to re-pull
llama3.1:ollama pull llama3.1(sorry!). Let me know if you're still seeing it afterwards. Basically the way the tensors were encoded was causing memory to be over-allocated.@Goekdeniz-Guelmez commented on GitHub (Aug 9, 2024):
It worked! Thanks!!!! So as I understood, it was a problem with how the tensors were encoded in the llama3.1 file itself, causing the memory over-allocation—not the KV cache stuff from earlier. I appreciate the quick fix—makes a lot of sense given how close the model was to hitting memory limits.