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Originally created by @WyvernDotRed on GitHub (Nov 24, 2024).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/7823
edit: Important clarifications on a misunderstanding from me on the current implementation at https://github.com/ollama/ollama/issues/7823#issuecomment-2542541753
These points still stay relevant, but might be easier to understand by reading the comment first.
In pull 416, the ability to enter multiple prompts over STDIN directly seems to have been removed.
To work around this, I recently made an
exceptscript (assembler in Fish) which filters out the interface related outputs elements ofollama run.In version 0.4.3, this achieves the desired effect of only outputting model output through the pipe, while allowing for multiple prompts.
I will share my script in the first comment.
As I mentioned in issue 7820, this method of inputting has been broken as per version 0.4.4.
And as mentioned by @rick-github in their comment, this likely is by design, due to pull 7360.
Which at face value seems to completely cover my use-case and avoids the jank of a script parsing the interface information.
But the current implementation breaks entering prompts manually or through
expect(my issue 7820 again), while piping the output toteeor similar.I will explore the proposed
scriptbased workaround mentioned by @rick-github, either adding it to or replacing myexpectbased workaround with it.Like my script, this still is an excessive level of workarounds to make something which would be expected functionality work.
Potential solutions:
ollama runimmediately close with output redirection, as the implementation from pull 7360 does.This could start processing the first/earlier prompt after the --- delimiter is received to allow for full dialogue
Perhaps
--input user,--nogui,--keeppipe, ect.Of course, this is only a feature request, it's fine if piping multiple prompts over STDIN or as arguments is not supported.
In which case I would be fine with looking further and interested in suggestions for other frontends or libraries to use.
P.S. Since making such a feature request is a first for me, constructive criticism is welcome if you can spare the time.
Either way, have a nice rest of your day!
@WyvernDotRed commented on GitHub (Nov 24, 2024):
Addendum: A function/script which provides the requested functionality in ollama 0.4.3.
The syntax is
prompt-ollama [model] '[prompt]', with further prompts being queued and answered like in a chat.For those unaware of how to import a Fish function and wanting to test this:
In a quick text, pasting the entire text in a Fish shell works for that session.
To permanently add it, write the script to
~/.config/fish/functions/promt-ollama.fishAfter which it can be used in other shells with
fish -c "promt-ollama [model] '[prompt]'"@WyvernDotRed commented on GitHub (Nov 24, 2024):
These are further answers made to @dhiltgen their question in my issue 7820.
In some cases, I am relying on the prior context, like I would in a chat.
This varies from separating questions to work around a smaller model shortening answered otherwise.
To the
ollama run [model] | tee [file]use-case I mentioned in the issue.Or simply sending a few 'continue' or similar prompts and leaving this running in the background, without mixing these prompts with the already given output (like the interactive chat does).
If it was not for that, the existing single prompt restriction on both STDIN and arguments would not be an issue.
Pull 7360 effectively fixes this scripting use-case, within this limit.
And before that, separating out STDERR and using
grep -v -e '>>> ' -e '^\.\.\. ' -e '^.\[?2004l'achieves the same result, barring false positives.Similarly, so would
ollama run [model] $( echo -e "\"\"\"\n$( cat [file] )\n\"\"\"" )before pull 416.But this does open up the can of worms of shell injections and accidental escapes of the """ block, again making it sensible to have fixed.
That still leaves the removal of having multiple prompts through any other means than an interactive chat.
With the program now immediately exiting, without having received an EOF, this requires fully emulating a user chat session.
Returning back to issue 6120, the very thing I wrote a monstrosity of a script for to work around this.
I will note that this script was written as an educational exercise in getting comfortable with Fish shell, fuelled by a "this should work, let's actually make it" mindset, not as a practical nor correct solution.
In this specific case the catalyst was wanting to automate parts of an upcoming "prompt engineering" assignment of my Uni, but also interest for further small and local projects.
This example specifically entails having different models generate texts and having other models analyse these, something most easily set up in a shell script.
Here the desire for multiple prompts stems from comparing making continued questions versus a clean session with fresh context.
Additionally attempting to preserve resources on limited hardware, though I have yet to test which approach is more efficient.
It is reasonable to be expected to use the API instead.
Before going the scripting route I have explored the API and got single responses through curl so far, matching the
ollama runbehaviour.But making multiple prompts work seems like more work and complexity than using the existing chat-like functionality.
So in the end I would find or make a minimal program, which would do close to the same, so I can easily whip up further shell scripts using it.
Which seems weird, since
ollama runhas the exact needed functionality and now works mostly as expected in a shell script, but arbitrarily limits this to single prompts.On which I understand this being the default, but do not grasp why there is no flag or syntax for it otherwise.
@WyvernDotRed commented on GitHub (Dec 13, 2024):
In case this request gets anywhere in the future, it might help to clarify some things:
Having had a peek in the code, Ollama seems to switch to a batch processing mode of single prompts.
My expectation was that it would continue as a normal chat, but exclude interface elements and if relevant interpret input in a more script friendly manner.
This is in line with most coreutils which I have used, whereas Ollama completely changing the way it processes inputs without command flags threw me off-guard.
The usecase was locally scripting prompts, possibly with multiple queued queries in the same context.
For example to store clean output from the chat without manually copy-pasting, by manually interacting with STDIN.
Or generating texts with different models, then letting models analyse and answer questions about the texts, storing the results.
The downgrade functioned for long enough for me to use the shared script to achieve this, now this assignment is done for me.
The merits of the current batch prompting implementation or this requested script friendly chatting are not the most important point here, since if the software can reasonably do either, I feel that it should.
Most problematic was the lack of documentation and unexpected nature of this switch to bach processing mode when standard output gets detected.
This made well-considered changes in behaviour appear as bugs or obvious mistakes, the actual mistake being my unmet expectation of the working of
ollama runwithout feature flags staying consistent.@rick-github commented on GitHub (Dec 14, 2024):
@jmorganca commented on GitHub (Dec 29, 2024):
@WyvernDotRed thanks so much for the issue and sorry for the slow response.
ollama runis designed to take a single input and output a single output - it can be scripted as shown above to prompt the model multiple times (or this can be done via the Chat API). Hope this helps