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[GH-ISSUE #6772] Organization Plugin: Add ability to entirely remove default role #27945

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opened 2026-04-17 19:14:00 -05:00 by GiteaMirror · 3 comments
GiteaMirror commented 2026-04-17 19:14:00 -05:00
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Originally created by @joshsedl on GitHub (Dec 15, 2025).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/better-auth/better-auth/issues/6772

Is this suited for github?

  • Yes, this is suited for github

To Reproduce

Currently, there is no (documented) way on how to remove one of the three default roles set by this plugin (owner, admin and member).

On the organization documentation page it is only documented on how to create new roles or how to override preexisting role permissions. But there seems to be no way to delete one of the default roles.

In our case we are using both the organization and the admin plugin. This means, that we have roles logic inside a user AND a member.

The problem is, both the admin and organization plugin define an "admin" role. Which can get quite confusing, so we don't want the "admin" role inside our organization, because having two identical role names on two different authorization levels can get quite confusing.

As a current workaround, we simply overwrite the "admin" permissions with an entry json object (no permissions) and use better auth server hooks to stop user creation / invitation if an invalid role (e.g. "admin") is used for user creation / invitation. Of course this shouldn't be needed IMO.

Current vs. Expected behavior

  • Create three member roles (role1, role2 and role3)
  • Pass them to auth.ts and auth-client.ts "organization" configuration as "roles"

Expected behavior

  • Only the given roles (role1, role2 and role3) exist

Actual behavior

  • The given roles (role1, role2 and role3) exist as well as admin, member and owner

What version of Better Auth are you using?

1.4.5

System info

{
  "system": {
    "platform": "linux",
    "arch": "x64",
    "version": "#1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Jun  5 18:30:46 UTC 2025",
    "release": "6.6.87.2-microsoft-standard-WSL2",
    "cpuCount": 16,
    "cpuModel": "11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11800H @ 2.30GHz",
    "totalMemory": "47.05 GB",
    "freeMemory": "38.52 GB"
  },
  "node": {
    "version": "v24.1.0",
    "env": "development"
  },
  "packageManager": {
    "name": "npm",
    "version": "11.3.0"
  },
  "frameworks": [
    {
      "name": "vue",
      "version": "^3.5.22"
    },
    {
      "name": "nuxt",
      "version": "^4.1.2"
    }
  ],
  "databases": [
    {
      "name": "@prisma/client",
      "version": "6.16.3"
    }
  ],
  "betterAuth": {
    "version": "^1.3.26",
    "config": null
  }
}

Which area(s) are affected? (Select all that apply)

Backend

Auth config (if applicable)

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Originally created by @joshsedl on GitHub (Dec 15, 2025). Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/better-auth/better-auth/issues/6772 ### Is this suited for github? - [x] Yes, this is suited for github ### To Reproduce Currently, there is no (documented) way on how to remove one of the [three default roles](https://www.better-auth.com/docs/plugins/organization#roles) set by this plugin (owner, admin and member). On the [organization documentation page](https://www.better-auth.com/docs/plugins/organization) it is only documented on how to create new roles or how to override preexisting role permissions. But there seems to be no way to delete one of the default roles. In our case we are using both the organization and the admin plugin. This means, that we have roles logic inside a user AND a member. The problem is, both the admin and organization plugin define an "admin" role. Which can get quite confusing, so we don't want the "admin" role inside our organization, because having two identical role names on two different authorization levels can get quite confusing. As a current workaround, we simply overwrite the "admin" permissions with an entry json object (no permissions) and use better auth server hooks to stop user creation / invitation if an invalid role (e.g. "admin") is used for user creation / invitation. Of course this shouldn't be needed IMO. ### Current vs. Expected behavior - Create three member roles (`role1`, `role2` and `role3`) - Pass them to auth.ts and auth-client.ts "organization" configuration as "roles" ### Expected behavior - Only the given roles (`role1`, `role2` and `role3`) exist ### Actual behavior - The given roles (`role1`, `role2` and `role3`) exist as well as `admin`, `member` and `owner` ### What version of Better Auth are you using? 1.4.5 ### System info ```bash { "system": { "platform": "linux", "arch": "x64", "version": "#1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Jun 5 18:30:46 UTC 2025", "release": "6.6.87.2-microsoft-standard-WSL2", "cpuCount": 16, "cpuModel": "11th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-11800H @ 2.30GHz", "totalMemory": "47.05 GB", "freeMemory": "38.52 GB" }, "node": { "version": "v24.1.0", "env": "development" }, "packageManager": { "name": "npm", "version": "11.3.0" }, "frameworks": [ { "name": "vue", "version": "^3.5.22" }, { "name": "nuxt", "version": "^4.1.2" } ], "databases": [ { "name": "@prisma/client", "version": "6.16.3" } ], "betterAuth": { "version": "^1.3.26", "config": null } } ``` ### Which area(s) are affected? (Select all that apply) Backend ### Auth config (if applicable) ```typescript ``` ### Additional context _No response_
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GiteaMirror commented 2026-04-17 19:14:01 -05:00
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@dosubot[bot] commented on GitHub (Dec 15, 2025):

It's not currently possible to entirely remove the default roles (owner, admin, member) from the Better Auth organization plugin via configuration. These roles are hardcoded in the plugin and always merged with any custom roles you provide, so they persist even if you define your own set of roles. This is enforced both in the code and the type system for validation and compatibility reasons [source] [source] [source].

The current workaround—overriding the permissions for unwanted default roles (like admin) and using hooks to block their assignment—is the recommended approach for now [source]. There are several open issues and discussions tracking this limitation and the confusion it causes, especially with overlapping role names between plugins, but as of v1.4.5, there is no built-in way to remove or disable these defaults [source] [source].

If you want to follow or contribute to the ongoing discussion, you can check out these related threads:

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<!-- gh-comment-id:3655650302 --> @dosubot[bot] commented on GitHub (Dec 15, 2025): <!-- Answer --> It's not currently possible to entirely remove the default roles (`owner`, `admin`, `member`) from the Better Auth organization plugin via configuration. These roles are hardcoded in the plugin and always merged with any custom roles you provide, so they persist even if you define your own set of roles. This is enforced both in the code and the type system for validation and compatibility reasons [[source]](https://github.com/better-auth/better-auth/blob/a63e70ea27e2e936ae9915171c0e59054dc9b4a0/packages/better-auth/src/plugins/organization/organization.ts#L10-L1255) [[source]](https://github.com/better-auth/better-auth/blob/a63e70ea27e2e936ae9915171c0e59054dc9b4a0/packages/better-auth/src/plugins/organization/access/statement.ts#L3-L41) [[source]](https://github.com/better-auth/better-auth/blob/a63e70ea27e2e936ae9915171c0e59054dc9b4a0/packages/better-auth/src/plugins/organization/schema.ts#L335-L376). The current workaround—overriding the permissions for unwanted default roles (like `admin`) and using hooks to block their assignment—is the recommended approach for now [[source]](https://github.com/better-auth/better-auth/issues/6710). There are several open issues and discussions tracking this limitation and the confusion it causes, especially with overlapping role names between plugins, but as of v1.4.5, there is no built-in way to remove or disable these defaults [[source]](https://github.com/better-auth/better-auth/issues/3056) [[source]](https://github.com/better-auth/better-auth/issues/40). If you want to follow or contribute to the ongoing discussion, you can check out these related threads: - [Issue #6710: Role validation and merging of default roles](https://github.com/better-auth/better-auth/issues/6710) - [Issue #3056: Confusion between admin roles in different plugins](https://github.com/better-auth/better-auth/issues/3056) - [Issue #40: Customizable roles feature request](https://github.com/better-auth/better-auth/issues/40) <!-- Dosu Comment Footer --> *To reply, just mention [@dosu](https://go.dosu.dev/dosubot).* --- <sup>How did I do? 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@joshsedl commented on GitHub (Mar 25, 2026):

Why was this closed as not planned? The issues you mentioned are not about the ability to remove default roles??

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@dosubot[bot] commented on GitHub (Mar 25, 2026):

@Bekacru The user joshsedl has pointed out that the issue was closed as not planned, but their concern about the ability to remove default roles is still relevant and not addressed by the reasons given. Could you please take a look and assist?

<!-- gh-comment-id:4127069932 --> @dosubot[bot] commented on GitHub (Mar 25, 2026): @Bekacru The user joshsedl has pointed out that the issue was closed as not planned, but their concern about the ability to remove default roles is still relevant and not addressed by the reasons given. Could you please take a look and assist?
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